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From: George W Frost on 22 Apr 2010 03:44 "VTR250" <google(a)m-streeter.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:53abecfc-b2e4-4d2e-8d81-71b2e912bdb9(a)a27g2000prj.googlegroups.com... On Apr 21, 10:05 am, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "Marty H" <hyt...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > <snip> > > sadly...Jaywalking in Melbourne is getting so bad it is becoming > ridiculous. > > My office is in the bottom end of Flinders Lane in Melbourne and I am > driving through the CDB several time each day. The amount of > pedestrians that just walk out onto the road without looking or worse > still, looking and simply not caring is astounding, Ipods and mobiles > phones don't help either. > > <snip> One very big (i.e. noticeable) difference between the UK and Australia is what happens on pedestrian crossings. I thought you were supposed to "Stop, Look, Listen, Think" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Green_Cross_Code] i.e. stand at the crossing, see if cars are coming, wait until the traffic has stopped or passed before carefully crossing the road, (ie. cross defensively). Not march out into the street without breaking your stride or even looking. If you did that in the UK, people would tell you you were a complete idiot. I asked a true blue Aussie mate of mine if many Australians die on crossings and he seemed to think they did, but I don't have any numbers. Australian drivers seem to behave differently because, I assume, they know the pedestrian won't stop look, listen or think. ********************************** I seem to recall not very long ago, well, maybe a couple of years ago, but too long ago for me to remember the names there was someone who got hit on a pededstrian crossing, she was in a wheelchair affair because she had been burned in a fire no fault of hers neither was it her fault that the car hit her it was the fault of the wheelchair pusher behind her who pushed the wheelchair out into the street against the flow of traffic, assuming that she had right of way over the traffic. Didn't even allow time for traffic to slow down or even stop, just barged out into the street with the wheelchair in front of her assuming again, that the car drivers would not want to scratch their car with the wheelchair. Her attitude was apparently, don't care about the girl in the wheelchair, just get across the street in as short as possible time
From: Moike on 22 Apr 2010 04:13 George W Frost wrote: > "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4bcff347(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... >> George W Frost wrote: >>> "Moike" <Ym13bW9pa2VAZ21haWwuY29t(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in >>> message news:hqljas$5tv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> George W Frost wrote: >>>> >>>>> Haven't been into the city proper for a while now, but they used to >>>>> have >>>>> coppers on point duty at each intersection, directing traffic and other >>>>> stuff. >>>>> The point I am getting at, is there used to be a particular copper on >>>>> point >>>>> at Flinders and Swanston Street intersection, directing traffic and if >>>>> any >>>>> pedestrian decided to chance the lights and walk against his direction, >>>>> he >>>>> would call them back to the footpath from where they came from, then >>>>> talk to >>>>> them for about two ot three mniutes about the dangers of the traffic, >>>>> thus >>>>> holding them up from catching their train or whatever, making them late >>>>> for >>>>> an appointment, then he would let them go with the green light, when he >>>>> was >>>>> good and ready to. >>>>> There were not many who tried to cross against the lights when he was >>>>> on >>>>> duty, even if they hadn't been caught before. >>>>> Could you imagine the embarrasment? >>>> Do you mean the copper we knew as the skull, or skullface in the early >>>> 70's? >>>> >>>> I have spoken to him..... >>>> >>>> Moike >>>> >>> >>> after you tried running the red light? >> Not exactly running. Walking quickly when the "Walk" sign was >> (technically) a "Dont Walk". >> >> The policeman I'm talking about was a tall, silver-haired copper with >> rather high cheekbones (hence the nickname). He seemed to be stationed >> there for a long time, while other points-duty cops came and went. I >> think he liked the job. >> >> When riding past on my 50cc Vespa, I always followed his instructions >> carefully, knowing I probably couldn't outrun him without abandoning the >> scooter. >> >> Moike > > Tall copper............ huh?? > from what I have been told about you > everyone is tall > > Huh? Is there a "woosh" there? Am I missing something? I'm what you might call a very ordinary height. Have you been listening to the voices again? (trying to imagine who there could be that has met me and has had the pleasure of your company.) Moike
From: George W Frost on 22 Apr 2010 05:13 "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:4bd0053b$1(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... > George W Frost wrote: >> "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4bcff347(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... >>> George W Frost wrote: >>>> "Moike" <Ym13bW9pa2VAZ21haWwuY29t(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote >>>> in message news:hqljas$5tv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> George W Frost wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Haven't been into the city proper for a while now, but they used to >>>>>> have >>>>>> coppers on point duty at each intersection, directing traffic and >>>>>> other >>>>>> stuff. >>>>>> The point I am getting at, is there used to be a particular copper on >>>>>> point >>>>>> at Flinders and Swanston Street intersection, directing traffic and >>>>>> if any >>>>>> pedestrian decided to chance the lights and walk against his >>>>>> direction, he >>>>>> would call them back to the footpath from where they came from, then >>>>>> talk to >>>>>> them for about two ot three mniutes about the dangers of the >>>>>> traffic, thus >>>>>> holding them up from catching their train or whatever, making them >>>>>> late for >>>>>> an appointment, then he would let them go with the green light, when >>>>>> he was >>>>>> good and ready to. >>>>>> There were not many who tried to cross against the lights when he was >>>>>> on >>>>>> duty, even if they hadn't been caught before. >>>>>> Could you imagine the embarrasment? >>>>> Do you mean the copper we knew as the skull, or skullface in the early >>>>> 70's? >>>>> >>>>> I have spoken to him..... >>>>> >>>>> Moike >>>>> >>>> >>>> after you tried running the red light? >>> Not exactly running. Walking quickly when the "Walk" sign was >>> (technically) a "Dont Walk". >>> >>> The policeman I'm talking about was a tall, silver-haired copper with >>> rather high cheekbones (hence the nickname). He seemed to be stationed >>> there for a long time, while other points-duty cops came and went. I >>> think he liked the job. >>> >>> When riding past on my 50cc Vespa, I always followed his instructions >>> carefully, knowing I probably couldn't outrun him without abandoning the >>> scooter. >>> >>> Moike >> >> Tall copper............ huh?? >> from what I have been told about you >> everyone is tall > Huh? > Is there a "woosh" there? > Am I missing something? > > I'm what you might call a very ordinary height. > > Have you been listening to the voices again? > > (trying to imagine who there could be that has met me and has had the > pleasure of your company.) > > Moike You never know who you are talking to Moike but, someone said you were competing with Betty for the Duck's Disease Award
From: G-S on 22 Apr 2010 05:25 George W Frost wrote: > "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4bd0053b$1(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... >> George W Frost wrote: >>> "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:4bcff347(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... >>>> George W Frost wrote: >>>>> "Moike" <Ym13bW9pa2VAZ21haWwuY29t(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote >>>>> in message news:hqljas$5tv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> George W Frost wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Haven't been into the city proper for a while now, but they used to >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> coppers on point duty at each intersection, directing traffic and >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>> The point I am getting at, is there used to be a particular copper on >>>>>>> point >>>>>>> at Flinders and Swanston Street intersection, directing traffic and >>>>>>> if any >>>>>>> pedestrian decided to chance the lights and walk against his >>>>>>> direction, he >>>>>>> would call them back to the footpath from where they came from, then >>>>>>> talk to >>>>>>> them for about two ot three mniutes about the dangers of the >>>>>>> traffic, thus >>>>>>> holding them up from catching their train or whatever, making them >>>>>>> late for >>>>>>> an appointment, then he would let them go with the green light, when >>>>>>> he was >>>>>>> good and ready to. >>>>>>> There were not many who tried to cross against the lights when he was >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> duty, even if they hadn't been caught before. >>>>>>> Could you imagine the embarrasment? >>>>>> Do you mean the copper we knew as the skull, or skullface in the early >>>>>> 70's? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have spoken to him..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Moike >>>>>> >>>>> after you tried running the red light? >>>> Not exactly running. Walking quickly when the "Walk" sign was >>>> (technically) a "Dont Walk". >>>> >>>> The policeman I'm talking about was a tall, silver-haired copper with >>>> rather high cheekbones (hence the nickname). He seemed to be stationed >>>> there for a long time, while other points-duty cops came and went. I >>>> think he liked the job. >>>> >>>> When riding past on my 50cc Vespa, I always followed his instructions >>>> carefully, knowing I probably couldn't outrun him without abandoning the >>>> scooter. >>>> >>>> Moike >>> Tall copper............ huh?? >>> from what I have been told about you >>> everyone is tall >> Huh? >> Is there a "woosh" there? >> Am I missing something? >> >> I'm what you might call a very ordinary height. >> >> Have you been listening to the voices again? >> >> (trying to imagine who there could be that has met me and has had the >> pleasure of your company.) >> >> Moike > > You never know who you are talking to Moike > but, someone said you were competing with Betty for the Duck's Disease Award > Moike is of average height (although that's an imprecise sort of term). G-S
From: Nev.. on 22 Apr 2010 06:35
On 22/04/2010 4:18 PM, VTR250 wrote: > On Apr 21, 10:05 am, "George W Frost"<georgewfr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> "Marty H"<hyt...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> <snip> >> >> sadly...Jaywalking in Melbourne is getting so bad it is becoming >> ridiculous. >> >> My office is in the bottom end of Flinders Lane in Melbourne and I am >> driving through the CDB several time each day. The amount of >> pedestrians that just walk out onto the road without looking or worse >> still, looking and simply not caring is astounding, Ipods and mobiles >> phones don't help either. >> >> <snip> > > One very big (i.e. noticeable) difference between the UK and Australia > is what happens on pedestrian crossings. I thought you were supposed > to "Stop, Look, Listen, Think" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Green_Cross_Code] i.e. stand at the crossing, see if cars are coming, The Green_what_code? We had Hector the Safety Cat here, mate. Nev.. '08 DL1000K8 |