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From: dsc-ky on 7 Jan 2010 10:52
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Dean H <dfhy...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> I'm considering adding welding tools to my arsenal.
>
> Old school torch setup seems versatile with its ability to heat, cut,
> braze, etc.
>
> Wire feed looks like the cat's meow though.
>
> Is wire feed a need or greed?

Oh, I've got gas, wire and stick... gas and stick rarely ever get
used. :)
From: JayC on 7 Jan 2010 14:22
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Dean H <dfhy...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> I'm considering adding welding tools to my arsenal.
>
> Old school torch setup seems versatile with its ability to heat, cut,
> braze, etc.
>
> Wire feed looks like the cat's meow though.
>
> Is wire feed a need or greed?

If you're welding stuff that is thinner than ~1/8", wire feed is a
need. 1/8" or thicker, you're better off with a stick. Torches are
great for cutting, provided you like using stone knives and
bearskins. Plasma cutters are the way to go.

JayC
From: HellSickle on 7 Jan 2010 16:11
On Jan 7, 5:20 am, Dean H <dfhy...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> I'm considering adding welding tools to my arsenal.
>
> Old school torch setup seems versatile with its ability to heat, cut,
> braze, etc.
>
> Wire feed looks like the cat's meow though.
>
> Is wire feed a need or greed?

I'm glad you are enlightened enough to realize gas can't be used for
welding :-O

Torch was my first choice. Weld, braze, cut, forge. 2nd choice was
stick for welding anything above 1/8".

My wire welder was wish was granted this xmas by my sweetie :-) Just
110V/flux, since I don't plan on anything too thick & wanted the
portability. For welding stuff that is near things you don't want
overheated, wire feed is a must. I've welding tabs on my bike frame
with the torch, but I've also melted things that I didn't shield
properly.

-Jeff-
From: bajacornman on 7 Jan 2010 20:35
On Jan 7, 7:20 am, Dean H <dfhy...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> I'm considering adding welding tools to my arsenal.
>
> Old school torch setup seems versatile with its ability to heat, cut,
> braze, etc.
>
> Wire feed looks like the cat's meow though.
>
> Is wire feed a need or greed?

What's up with people not liking mig for metal thicker than 1/8"? A
good 220v mig will easily weld much thicker metal in one pass, no
slag, no chipping, no changing rods... much faster, much easier, much
cleaner, much prettier in less skilled hands? I just don't get it?
Pretty much every commercial tag-a-long trailer (at least up to 12K or
15K pound gross) built today is built with a mig? Most of the metal on
these trailers is more than 1/8". How many popped welds are happening?

Even if you were going to weld something an inch or more thick, a good
mig would do it with multiple passes... you'd have to make multiple
passes with a stick as well... right?

A stick (probably 6011 or 6010) really shines on rusty metal though
especially if it is thick enough to not burn through easily. As for a
steady hand... if you shake a little just learn to shake in a whip and
pause pattern. :)

From: john on 7 Jan 2010 21:15
my resistance welder runs about 600 feet
of weld per hour.. i use that for production
stuff... for fabrication i like mig & tig because they
are more versatile. YMMV i can hand the idiot gun
shielded gas wire feed thing to just about anyone
and they can make welds (not pretty but it sticks together)
you just adjust the knobs until it sounds like bacon frying
and then keep the puddle moving...
john
the buzz of 250kva welders are awesome

"HellSickle" <jdee
On Jan 7, 5:20 am, Dean H <dfhy.
> I'm considering adding welding tools to my arsenal.
>
> Old school torch setup seems versatile with its ability to heat, cut,
> braze, etc.
>
> Wire feed looks like the cat's meow though.
>
> Is wire feed a need or greed?

I'm glad you are enlightened enough to realize gas can't be used for
welding :-O

Torch was my first choice. Weld, braze, cut, forge. 2nd choice was
stick for welding anything above 1/8".

My wire welder was wish was granted this xmas by my sweetie :-) Just
110V/flux, since I don't plan on anything too thick & wanted the
portability. For welding stuff that is near things you don't want
overheated, wire feed is a must. I've welding tabs on my bike frame
with the torch, but I've also melted things that I didn't shield
properly.

-Jeff-


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