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From: Knobdoodle on 16 Feb 2007 05:19 "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message news:C1FAB5F5.11F28%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au... > On 16/2/07 12:40 AM, in article > kpZAh.1548$4c6.1409(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Knobdoodle" > <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message >>> On 16/2/07 12:03 AM, in article >>> 9SYAh.1528$4c6.1312(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Knobdoodle" >>> <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message >>>>> , "GB"<gb0506(a)kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> GB, long since given up on this bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> Yet you keep looking and watching and POSTING! >>>>> >>>> P'raps it's in the vain hope that someone will actually have the spine >>>> to >>>> admit they were wrong about that >>>> unnecessary-headlights-don't-waste-fuel >>>> stuff..... >>>> Eh Hammo? >>>> Eh Nev? >>>> Eh Andrew? >>> >>> >>> Is this akin to "man up"? Where apparently I/others care about the >>> taunts >>> and need to be swayed from our opinion? >>> >>> I note that you now have "unnecessary" headlights. That's the way.... >>> >> Odd that you'd find this objectionable now Hammo. >> I've been using "unnecessary' for the last 5 days or so to clearly define >> the parameters of the debate (after one of your Hammoflage-attempts >> pretending that we were actually talking about using headlights for a >> useful >> purpose during daylight hours). >> Of course; you knew that already though didn't you? > > No. I didn't read much of anything you posted that had Hammoflage or > obfuscation in it. It was a tad Ground Hog for me. > Well stop introducing all that tripe into the debate and I won't have to point out it's irrelevance eh Hammo. Just like Bill Murray's character in the movie when YOU finally do the correct thing Ground Hog day ends. -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 16 Feb 2007 05:26 "Toosmoky" <toosmoky(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Knobdoodle wrote: >> That depends on whether you are gaining anything from the flashing. >> If not then "yes" too (obviously). > > How do I *know* that fuel is actually being consumed to feed the lights? I > can't measure it, so can't say for sure whether fuel is actually used or > by some factor I haven't thought of, saved. > Well; three ways. You can train up on the subject; read heaps and become an expert yourself, OR You can read this thread and have it explained to you OR You can just make up some wild-arsed idea and then stick to it even though it makes no sense. (Like Nev did). Choice is yours. > > I changed my gearing from 18/43 to 17/45 expecting to use more fuel but > the economy improved significantly, to my surprise. > Far more variables there than lights-on/lights-off. > >> Only you have the power to look deep within yourself > > Pooo! Don't go there... > No no; I meant look from the top downwards. -- Clem (Although on some poster you'd still find the same thing)
From: Knobdoodle on 16 Feb 2007 05:29 "Boxer" <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:rH8Bh.1756$4c6.197(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > So how much extra fuel would I be using by having my car air-conditioner > set at 23 degrees rather than 24 degrees ? > *more* -- Clem (And if you set it to 25 the answer would be *less*)
From: Knobdoodle on 16 Feb 2007 05:34 "Boxer" <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:6K9Bh.1789$4c6.1104(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message > news:45d52422$0$24735$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> Theo Bekkers wrote: >>> Boxer wrote: >>> >>>> So how much extra fuel would I be using by having my car >>>> air-conditioner set at 23 degrees rather than 24 degrees ? >>> >>> You are wasting a lot of extra fuel. You should be on your bike! >> >> The aircon on my bike is currently set at 33�C.. so if I am in my car >> with the aircon set at 23� I'd be saving a lot of fuel, right? >> >> Nev.. >> '04 CBR1100XX > > An engine is designed to work efficiently with a certain amount of load so > perhaps driving with the air conditioner on is more efficient (and with > the windows up less drag) than with it switched off. > That windows up = less drag vs air-con theory has been around a while. I remember a feller in aus.cars trying it out in a rental car on a run from Adelaide-Woomera and back (or somewhere equally flat and devoid of things that could affect the calculations) and I thiiiiink it came out in favour of the windows. Different cars, different engines, different air-con settings may swing the results in the other direction though. Send it to Mythbusters! -- Clem
From: Nev.. on 16 Feb 2007 05:54
Knobdoodle wrote: > "Boxer" <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:6K9Bh.1789$4c6.1104(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message >> news:45d52422$0$24735$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>> Theo Bekkers wrote: >>>> Boxer wrote: >>>> >>>>> So how much extra fuel would I be using by having my car >>>>> air-conditioner set at 23 degrees rather than 24 degrees ? >>>> You are wasting a lot of extra fuel. You should be on your bike! >>> The aircon on my bike is currently set at 33�C.. so if I am in my car >>> with the aircon set at 23� I'd be saving a lot of fuel, right? >>> >>> Nev.. >>> '04 CBR1100XX >> An engine is designed to work efficiently with a certain amount of load so >> perhaps driving with the air conditioner on is more efficient (and with >> the windows up less drag) than with it switched off. >> > That windows up = less drag vs air-con theory has been around a while. > I remember a feller in aus.cars trying it out in a rental car on a run from > Adelaide-Woomera and back (or somewhere equally flat and devoid of things > that could affect the calculations) and I thiiiiink it came out in favour of > the windows. > Different cars, different engines, different air-con settings may swing the > results in the other direction though. > > Send it to Mythbusters! Mythbusters already did it. :) Nev.. '04 CBR1100XX |