From: Toosmoky on
Knobdoodle wrote:

> Yeah it offends me also but just like points ignition it's a thing of the
> past now.
> We've traded "runs forever with just a regular adjustment/replacement" for
> "runs faultlessly for 3000 hours then fails irretrievably"...

If I ever buy another Evo-powered H-D the electronic ignition will be
the first thing to go in the bin, to be replaced immediately with a
points setup. (As it was on the old Softy.)

Pity there's no points setups for the twin-cams, as far as I know.

Points used to cost me $8 and a few minutes once a year to replace
(whether they needed it or not).

Idled better, ran smoother.

--
Toosmoky
Work to ride, Ride to Work...
http://toosmoky.d2.net.au
From: Knobdoodle on

"Toosmoky" <toosmoky(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c83e8d$0$491$61c65585(a)uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
> Knobdoodle wrote:
>
>> Yeah it offends me also but just like points ignition it's a thing of the
>> past now.
>> We've traded "runs forever with just a regular adjustment/replacement"
>> for "runs faultlessly for 3000 hours then fails irretrievably"...
>
> If I ever buy another Evo-powered H-D the electronic ignition will be the
> first thing to go in the bin, to be replaced immediately with a points
> setup. (As it was on the old Softy.)
>
> Pity there's no points setups for the twin-cams, as far as I know.
>
> Points used to cost me $8 and a few minutes once a year to replace
> (whether they needed it or not).
>
> Idled better, ran smoother.
>
I can't say that my points bikes ran better than CDI equivalents ('specially
the two-smokes!) but I've never looked at a points system and said "I can't
get this home".
--
Clem


From: Knobdoodle on

"Iain Chalmers" <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote in message
news:bigiain-B2E2DA.19423706022007(a)nasal.pacific.net.au...
> In article <O0Xxh.3553$sd2.9(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK; I can accept the logic of centrifugal force causing the centre of the
>> valve to pull down (towards the outside of the tyre) at high speed and
>> letting the tyre deflate. (Sorry Nathan; I didn't understand the equation
>> and sorry Theo; I didn't understand the explanation.)
>
> Whether it's a "real world" effect or not I don't know, but that's the
> marketing spin Ducati use to hype up the 90 degree valve stems they use
> on the 99* and 74* range...
>
Yep; but you'd have to have the angle the right way or you'd suffer the same
[alleged?] effect under braking or acceleration!
--
Clem


From: Knobdoodle on

"Dale Porter" <daleaporter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eq9eqq$dqa$1(a)otis.netspace.net.au...
> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XFWxh.3542$sd2.564(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "G-S" <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:12sg9upj9fcbc38(a)corp.supernews.com...
>>> Nev.. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My alternator keeps my battery at a full charge, which means it must be
>>>> providing more charge than I actually use, all the time, which means
>>>> that any charge required for accessories like lights and radio is being
>>>> produced all the time, regardless of whether or not I'm actually using
>>>> them, which means that no more fuel is required.
>>>>
>>>> How's that for logic?
>>>>
>>> Going well until the last bit which should read... "which means that
>>> fuel use varies partly according to alternator output" :)
>>>
>> Well yessss... but I think Nev's point was that the alternator output is
>> not affected by headlights, accessories, etc,.. so that's not something
>> you have any control over.
>> --
>>
>
> However Nev has oversimplified.
>
> An alternator will only produce the required amount of amps needed to run
> the operating electrical systems in the car (charging, lights, stereo,
> heater/air-con fan, etc) up to the output capacity of the alternator. As
> the amp demand increases, so does the load on the alternator, which in
> turn puts an added load on the engine running the alternator.
>
> So yes the battery will stay charged provided the power demands of the
> alternator are not exceeded, but that does not mean there is constant load
> on the alternator up to it's production limit.
>
In a car yes; but I think Nev was talking about the horrible constant-output
(dependent on revs) setups that bikes have these days.
--
Clem


From: Dale Porter on
"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote
>> However Nev has oversimplified.
>>
>> An alternator will only produce the required amount of amps needed to run the operating electrical systems in the car (charging,
>> lights, stereo, heater/air-con fan, etc) up to the output capacity of the alternator. As the amp demand increases, so does the
>> load on the alternator, which in turn puts an added load on the engine running the alternator.
>>
>> So yes the battery will stay charged provided the power demands of the alternator are not exceeded, but that does not mean there
>> is constant load on the alternator up to it's production limit.
>>
> In a car yes; but I think Nev was talking about the horrible constant-output (dependent on revs) setups that bikes have these
> days.
> --
>

Do Superbudgies come with radios these days?


>Nev.. wrote:
>
> My alternator keeps my battery at a full charge, which means it must
> be providing more charge than I actually use, all the time, which
> means that any charge required for accessories like lights and radio
> is being produced all the time, regardless of whether or not I'm
> actually using them, which means that no more fuel is required.


--
Dale Porter
GPX250 -> CBR600 -> VTR1000 + VT250F-J


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