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From: Mot Adv-NSW on 5 Feb 2007 20:57 "George W Frost" > Some of these driving lights are actual spotlights, some are even larger > than the original headlights ( Subaru ) and when they are on as well as > headlights..... George, you've been around long enough to know the lamps mounted below the bumper of the Subaru's are complianced front fogs. In any case, from his response, he mean't headlights at night. > I always thought that it was an Australian design rule that Australian > regisered cars, no matter which state you were in, bans any more than two > headlights on when facing oncoming traffic. Front fog lights are not headlights, and front fogs are only to be used under 'hazardous weather conditions causing reduced visibility', nationally end of 07 - and in WA and NSW now. > Pity that Shane and Spooky from the Highway patrol aren't in this > newsgroup any more, they could shed light on this subject Shane has left HWP. Dunno why Spooky would stay with NSWPOL. JP
From: Knobdoodle on 5 Feb 2007 20:57 "paulh" <paulh(a)fahncahn.com> wrote in message news:htkfs2d1ku1brvvftq6k5ovm3qpd9au9up(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:25:28 +1000, Peter Cremasco > <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > >>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:06:32 +1100, Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >> >>> >>>On 6/2/07 12:41 AM, in article 45c73421(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au, "F Murtz" >>><haggisz(a)tpg.com.au> wrote: >> >>>> What is this idiocy about headlights. >>>> headlights in daylight do nothing except waste fuel. >>> >>>Do tell, how? >> >>Well, Duh! Hammo. Lights use electrickery. Electrikery is drained from >>the battery. The alternator needs to replace electrickery in the >>battery. The extra work from the alternator uses up more fuel from the >>engine to drive it. >> >>How's THAT for logic? >>--- > > As Nev and others point out Bikes provide more than enough electricity > to keep themselves charged in normal use. Running a headlight doesnt > increase the load on the engine because the engine doesnt provide > electricity based on demand, it provides the same amount regardless of > load. Thus using a headlight uses power that would otherwise go > 'wasted'. > Yep; you're right (Nev). I forgot about modern "shunt-to-earth" bike regulators. Still; we WERE talking cars and I don't think they generally do that do they? -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 5 Feb 2007 21:14 "Boxer" <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:L8Rxh.3389$sd2.310(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > "paulh" <paulh(a)fahncahn.com> wrote in message > news:htkfs2d1ku1brvvftq6k5ovm3qpd9au9up(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:25:28 +1000, Peter Cremasco >> <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:06:32 +1100, Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On 6/2/07 12:41 AM, in article 45c73421(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au, "F Murtz" >>>><haggisz(a)tpg.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>>> What is this idiocy about headlights. >>>>> headlights in daylight do nothing except waste fuel. >>>> >>>>Do tell, how? >>> >>>Well, Duh! Hammo. Lights use electrickery. Electrikery is drained from >>>the battery. The alternator needs to replace electrickery in the >>>battery. The extra work from the alternator uses up more fuel from the >>>engine to drive it. >>> >>>How's THAT for logic? >>>--- >> >> As Nev and others point out Bikes provide more than enough electricity >> to keep themselves charged in normal use. Running a headlight doesnt >> increase the load on the engine because the engine doesnt provide >> electricity based on demand, it provides the same amount regardless of >> load. Thus using a headlight uses power that would otherwise go >> 'wasted'. >> >> paulh > > Where does the electricity go when it is wasted? > Hondas use a seat-heater. It's small and black and when they're doing their job they put out a lovely warm glow. Look for the letters "r e g u l a t o r" on the casing..... -- Clem
From: Boxer on 5 Feb 2007 21:21 "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JvRxh.3400$sd2.2979(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > "Boxer" <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:L8Rxh.3389$sd2.310(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> >> "paulh" <paulh(a)fahncahn.com> wrote in message >> news:htkfs2d1ku1brvvftq6k5ovm3qpd9au9up(a)4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:25:28 +1000, Peter Cremasco >>> <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:06:32 +1100, Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 6/2/07 12:41 AM, in article 45c73421(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au, "F Murtz" >>>>><haggisz(a)tpg.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> What is this idiocy about headlights. >>>>>> headlights in daylight do nothing except waste fuel. >>>>> >>>>>Do tell, how? >>>> >>>>Well, Duh! Hammo. Lights use electrickery. Electrikery is drained from >>>>the battery. The alternator needs to replace electrickery in the >>>>battery. The extra work from the alternator uses up more fuel from the >>>>engine to drive it. >>>> >>>>How's THAT for logic? >>>>--- >>> >>> As Nev and others point out Bikes provide more than enough electricity >>> to keep themselves charged in normal use. Running a headlight doesnt >>> increase the load on the engine because the engine doesnt provide >>> electricity based on demand, it provides the same amount regardless of >>> load. Thus using a headlight uses power that would otherwise go >>> 'wasted'. >>> >>> paulh >> >> Where does the electricity go when it is wasted? >> > Hondas use a seat-heater. > It's small and black and when they're doing their job they put out a > lovely warm glow. > Look for the letters "r e g u l a t o r" on the casing..... > -- > Clem I have a little Honda in the garage, although it will take some time to learn how to lift the seat. Boxer (Going to Karuah Clem)
From: Mad-Biker on 5 Feb 2007 21:26
much like air conditioning, the alternator still turns over at a constant rate no matter how much power your draining! "Peter Cremasco" <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:n28fs29ntf96igg8chd7evn6shcvkr7eki(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:06:32 +1100, Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: > >> >>On 6/2/07 12:41 AM, in article 45c73421(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au, "F Murtz" >><haggisz(a)tpg.com.au> wrote: > >>> What is this idiocy about headlights. >>> headlights in daylight do nothing except waste fuel. >> >>Do tell, how? > > Well, Duh! Hammo. Lights use electrickery. Electrikery is drained from > the battery. The alternator needs to replace electrickery in the > battery. The extra work from the alternator uses up more fuel from the > engine to drive it. > > How's THAT for logic? > --- > Cheers > > PeterC [aka MildThing] > > > '01 Yamaha FJR1300 > > www.dmcsc.org.au > http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/ > # 37181 |