From: Nev.. on
G-S wrote:
> Nev.. wrote:
>> GB wrote:
>>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in
>>> news:45ca4f55$0$25321$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>>>> And you very neatly ignored the bit where I also found that it did not
>>>> affect the fuel flow and therefore did not use any more fuel... no
>>>> wait.. you poo-poo'd that because it didn't suit your argument. BZZT.
>>>
>>> I didn't ignore it at all. In fact I addressed it quite
>>> comprehensively. Your fuel flow meter is not up to the task of
>>> measuring fuel flow with sufficient accuracy or repeatability
>>> to demonstrate the so-fundamental-that-it-shouldn't-need-discussing,-
>>> much-less-demonstrating principle of physics that's being discussed.
>>
>> So for all intents and purposes, the amount of additional fuel
>> consumed when the headlights are turned on is immeasurable, so this
>> "lights on = more fuel" business exists in theory only.
>>
>
> _Not_ immeasurable... just not measurable by a standard car consumption
> gauge.
>
> We have flow rate meters at work that are sensitive enough to measure
> this effect.

So does my car. It doesn't measure any change.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX
From: Nev.. on
Johno wrote:
>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in
>
>
> snipped alot...
>
>> [...]
>>> If it's measuring 2.68l/hr once per second that would be umm...
>>> 0.0007444L/sec.. I reckon it updates about maybe 3 times per second
>>> meaning it's measuring 0.00024815L/sec. I would have to check your
>>> physics books to see if that is near enough to a poofteenth or not, I
>>> reckon it is probably pretty damn close.
>
> I *know* I should know... but just how much is a poofteenth? Is is
> metric / Imperial? How is it measured?

Good question. We're still waiting for an answer. GB apparently hasn't
got up to that page in his physics book yet.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX
From: sharkey on
Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote:
> "sharkey" <sharkey(a)zoic.org> wrote:
> >
> > Excellent, and I'll bring the oscilloscope!
>
> That'd be great.
> Plans still the same?
> How strong is your arm/shoulder now?

Umm, yeah, you rostered off?

Strong enough for a _large_ beer :-)

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From: sharkey on
Nev.. <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>
> Enough of the silly monkeys. Just explain whatever it is you are
> avoiding. How does the engine management computer figure out the fuel
> flow rate?

On an EFI car, it _causes_ the fuel flow rate ... you can calculate it
from the (fuel rail pressure - the manifold pressure) * (injector open
time - fudge factor).

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From: sharkey on
Andrew McKenna <NOcmorSPAM3047(a)NObigpond.SPAMnet.au> wrote:
>
> I think your critics are thinking of their bicycles with dynamo powered
> headlights :-) More electrical load might make you discover that you
> need to push harder to achieve the same results but there's no way the
> dynamo itself gets harder to spin.

What? You need to push harder to spin it but it doesn't get harder to
spin?

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