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From: Knobdoodle on 9 Feb 2007 08:09 "Boxer" <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote; > The fuel computer on the Holden 5.7 litre is not very accurate so it is > unlikely to provide the information required. > I reckon a test would be if it can tell the difference between air-con on and aircon off. If it can't tell the difference then it's never gonna' see headlights. -- Clem
From: Aeek on 9 Feb 2007 08:12 On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:09:55 +1100, Iain Chalmers <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote: >In article <C1F11DF8.11BAB%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au>, > Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >> 10 per cent? > >Do you know what a Deux Chevaux is? Do you know why they call it that? >Do you know how many watts 2hp is? Its tax horsepower, not actual horsepower, 2cv > 2hp
From: atec "atec77 on 9 Feb 2007 08:22 jlittler(a)my-deja.com wrote: > On Feb 9, 7:49 pm, atec <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> wrote: >> jlitt...(a)my-deja.com wrote: >>> On Feb 9, 2:51 pm, atec <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> jlitt...(a)my-deja.com wrote: >>>>> On Feb 9, 12:58 am, atec <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Andrew McKenna wrote: >>>>>>> sharkey wrote: >>>>>>>> Andrew McKenna <NOcmorSPAM3...(a)NObigpond.SPAMnet.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I think your critics are thinking of their bicycles with dynamo >>>>>>>>> powered headlights :-) More electrical load might make you discover >>>>>>>>> that you need to push harder to achieve the same results but there's >>>>>>>>> no way the dynamo itself gets harder to spin. >>>>>>>> What? You need to push harder to spin it but it doesn't get harder to >>>>>>>> spin? >>>>>>>> -----sharks >>>>>>> No, you need to push harder to get the result if you add electrical >>>>>>> load. It cannot possibly get harder to spin. >>>>>> Now thats wrong in so many ways . >>>>> Actually he's dead right if you read it carefully - typical engineer's >>>>> wording though. They never speak english. >>>>> The MECHANICAL load is unchanged IE the effort to physically spin the >>>>> metallicy bits around will be unchanged regardless of electrical load. >>>> The way I understand it that statement is wrong , mechanical input >>>> required to generate electrical energy bears relationships to each >>>> other, more electrical energy required means more drive is required to >>>> overcome the resistance to turning .A change in turning momentum is >>>> proportional to energy required. >>> And your statement is indeed correct - there's a difference between >>> the mechanical input and the mechanical load. Pure semantics of >>> course. mechanical load (as torque) plus electrical load(as torque) >>> equals mechanical input required(as torque). The mechanical load is a >>> constant (ceteris paribus), the electrical load changes with, well, >>> the electrical load <grin> (1). To be more accurate the torque/turning >>> force that you have to provide to generate a current equal to the >>> current being drawn is increased as the current required increases(2) >>> JL >>> (1) there obviously being more than one meaning of the word load in >>> this context >> I will never agree to that ( I stick to what I know and have been taught) > > I think that translates as I'm too stupid to think for myself, n'est > ce pas ? > >> - one being current drawn, the other being turning force> required >> >> load is load , as in work to be done /required so whether explained as >> turning force or current drawn they bear a direct relationship of watts >> and where's consumed > > Ya gotta love a guy who makes a statement to which the only answer is > "yeah but"...<pause> actually no you don't. > > Yes, load is load, it's measured in work done, hence why I put the > bits in brackets about how it was measured (that'd be that torque > thingy). But Andrew seemed to be differentiating between two different > types of work (he later said things that make me doubt he had a clue, > but that's a different discussion) the actual statement he made is > (pedantically) correct. > > There's work to turn the metal things in the alternator around- that > load is a constant, it doesn't change regardless of the electrickery. the load does change in response to demand and thats the point , see bicycle riding . > > Then there's the electrickery, the EMF is going to create a different > load depending on the watts being consumed by dint of how much > electrical load is attached. which means the mechanical force required to maaintain the rotations speed alters in response ( think bicycle pedals ) > > Add the two together and you get the total one is variable, one is > constant. Not difficult really. not strictly correct either > >> (2) still not sure I'm explaining that particularly well >> >> No you didn't , I suspect it's some bullshite machination dreamed up >> to split hairs buy a drunken masturbaterpoofta ( tell me if I am wrong) > > Well i wasn't drunk but I don't know what the latter bit means so I > can't comment, it's obviously intended to be pejorative so I guess the > obvious reply is "gefuggedyastupidkuntgetabigblackdogupya" now you are being impolite , google machinations and you will understand , se not machinery of the mind . ok ? > > JL >
From: Knobdoodle on 9 Feb 2007 08:22 "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: > Enough of the silly monkeys. Just explain whatever it is you are > avoiding. How does the engine management computer figure out the fuel > flow rate? > [shrug] It doesn't. It just displays a number that you either do or don't choose to believe. -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 9 Feb 2007 08:33
"Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote in message news:45cba52d$1(a)news.bekkers.com.au... > sharkey wrote: > >> Excellent, and I'll bring the oscilloscope! > > I've got a 40 year old Tektronix 422 in the shed somewhere. > No need to cro about it! -- Clem |