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From: Knobdoodle on 9 Feb 2007 08:35 "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message news:C1F2B3EC.1F51C%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au... > > > > On 9/2/07 10:27 PM, in article > NUYyh.5171$sd2.1392(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Knobdoodle" > <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message >> news:C1F1774F.1F39A%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au... >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/2/07 12:34 AM, in article >>> YFFyh.4682$sd2.653(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Knobdoodle" >>> <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>> I think you've been reading too many physics books and you've lost >>>>> sight >>>>> of reality. Are you saying that if I measure something once per >>>>> second >>>>> and then multiply that by 3600 my result is not an accurate measure of >>>>> an >>>>> hourly rate? Do you think the computer controlling the fuel rate just >>>>> guesses? >>>>> >>>> No; it actuates the injector the exact amount that it's been told to >>>> for >>>> the >>>> conditions it's measured. >>>> It then displays the exact mpg (L/Hr, Km per kilojoule or whatever) >>>> that's >>>> it's been told to display too. >>>> >>>> But it doesn't have any idea what a litre actually is and it certainly >>>> doean't have any ability to actually measure one! >>> >>> Eh? >>> >>> It's measured, but it can't measure? >>> >> Quantify "measured". > > That is exactly what I am asking you to do!! > But I said it's NOT measured. -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 9 Feb 2007 08:36 "Aeek" <aeeeeeek(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:oomos2pss97fn44vpnvqc68r7nkbsaudr4(a)4ax.com... > On 9 Feb 2007 21:44:57 +1100, GB <gb0506(a)kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> > wrote: > >> has an EFI computer > > sounds greek to me. ~ How embarrassment! -- Clem [Applause] by the way....
From: Knobdoodle on 9 Feb 2007 08:41 "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message news:C1F2A90C.1F50B%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au... > > > > On 9/2/07 9:23 AM, in article > 1170973410.349356.238620(a)m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com, > "jlittler(a)my-deja.com" <jlittler(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > >> On Feb 9, 12:56 am, Hammo <hbaj2...(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >>> On 9/2/07 12:34 AM, in article >>> YFFyh.4682$sd2....(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Knobdoodle" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <knobdoo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Nev.." <i...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>> I think you've been reading too many physics books and you've lost >>>>> sight >>>>> of reality. Are you saying that if I measure something once per >>>>> second >>>>> and then multiply that by 3600 my result is not an accurate measure of >>>>> an >>>>> hourly rate? Do you think the computer controlling the fuel rate just >>>>> guesses? >>> >>>> No; it actuates the injector the exact amount that it's been told to >>>> for the >>>> conditions it's measured. >>>> It then displays the exact mpg (L/Hr, Km per kilojoule or whatever) >>>> that's >>>> it's been told to display too. >>> >>>> But it doesn't have any idea what a litre actually is and it certainly >>>> doean't have any ability to actually measure one! >>> >>> Eh? >>> >>> It's measured, but it can't measure? >> >> No, it's calculated based on what actually is "measured" (or more >> accurately specified by the efi). >> >> The efi opens the injector for a period according to what it's lookup >> table tells it is the right amount given the parameters it has sensors >> measuring. It ASSUMES the fuel pressure (and hence fuel flow) is >> correct (unless there has been some new fangled advances in EFI I'm >> not aware of). I know of no cars that measure actual fuel flow, they >> usually calculate your fuel consumption based on the amount of time >> they've opened the injectors, and the number of KM's travelled. Those >> two parameters are based on a number of implicit assumptions: >> - the fuel pressure is correct >> - there are no blockages restricting fuel flow >> - the size of your tyres are as specified and hence the number of K's >> calculated is correct >> >> etc etc >> >> it's a reasonably accurate estimate and more than good enough for the >> purposes for which it is used. That doesn't mean the actual fuel flow >> is measured. > > Eh? > > It's measured but it doesn't measure? > Why do you keep pretending we've said "it's measured" Hammo; when we've quite clearly said the exact opposite! -- Clem "If I don't answer you, it's because I believe my point has been made in the current post or others on the subject or that the points of argument presented are illogical." ..... Toosmoky
From: atec "atec77 on 9 Feb 2007 08:55 GB wrote: > atec <"atec77 "@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:45cc63e2$0$1146$61c65585(a)un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com. > au: >> GB wrote: >>> Nah mate, Nev's commondore has an EFI computer, not a "governing >>> unit". >> It is too. >> it might not have swinging arms in the physical sence but at a base >> electronic level there is still a little robot screaming Danger Dr >> Smiff > > As they say in the classics.... > > > WHOOOOOOOOSH!!!! > > > GB if you say so , now read what I said and the answer is the left side.
From: atec "atec77 on 9 Feb 2007 08:56
Hammo wrote: > > > On 9/2/07 4:31 PM, in article 45cc07e7$1(a)news.bekkers.com.au, "Theo Bekkers" > <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote: > >> Hammo wrote: >> >>> Actually, I'm gonna use solar power! >> Isn't petrol just very old solar power? > > Will I need to use synthetic or mineral oil? > > Hammo > Olive ? |