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From: Peter Cremasco on 11 Feb 2007 00:17 On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:30:33 +1100, "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: >Peter Cremasco wrote: >> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:22:27 +1100, "Dale Porter" <daleaporter(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> "Peter Cremasco" <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:ms4ns2duvu4b7tvncuicr1vedevs58cnjj(a)4ax.com... >>> >>>> Strangely enough, the Camira engine speed increases when the a/c is >>>> switched on. I think that's the ECU overcompensating for the extra load, >>>> though. >>>> >>> That would be due to the air-con compressor not being driven by the engine, more the other way around. It starts up and runs at a >>> higher speed than the engine does at idle. >> >> The compressor is driven by the engine, via two belts. > >Nah mate, it's a Camira :) > >Nev.. (I think you were whooshed) Hmmm. Perhaps you are right. [walks away mumbling something about subtleties] --- Cheers PeterC [aka MildThing] '01 Yamaha FJR1300 www.dmcsc.org.au http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/ # 37181
From: Hammo on 11 Feb 2007 00:24 <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message >> Knobdoodle wrote: >>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>> Ok so I tested it myself. >>>> >>>> 5.7 Lt EFI Holden in diagnostics mode. >>>> All Lights off idle speed ~803 >>>> All Lights on idle speed ~803 >>>> All lights off fuel rate 2.68L/hr >>>> All lights on fuel rate 2.68L/hr >> >> OK so I went out to my car, on a different day, in different weather >> conditions and the above measurements all replicated.. surprising since >> some people have been so adamant that the system which measured them >> wasn't accurate, reliable or repeatable.. but anyway.. >> > And some people said they were just pre-programmed responses unaffected by > actual conditions. > It looks like those people may've been right eh? Measure voltage as well. Under those 4 conditions and ("bring a mirror and flashlight to, observe") annotate. Hammo
From: Hammo on 11 Feb 2007 04:11 On 11/2/07 9:13 AM, in article 12ssgrth1gbf586(a)corp.supernews.com, "G-S" <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > Hammo wrote: >> There is no waste as I want >> it on and it does it's job well. Yes, it uses fuel, no it's not a waste. >> >> Crystal? >> > > > Crystal but _still_ an irrelevant red herring. > > The point under discussion isn't if the fuel used is wasted or not... > the point is 'is there fuel being used' to run the lights, and some > people seem to be in denial about the fact that there is. > > Others like you seem content to throw odd, technically correct but > totally useless and irrelevant comments into the conversation. > > You didn't perhaps work for Microsoft in a past life did you? :) Yawn, resorting to thinly disguised insults now? Lame, I thought better of you. That argument is moot and has been raised already re: the inefficiencies of the internal combustion engine. Hammo
From: Hammo on 11 Feb 2007 04:12 On 11/2/07 9:58 AM, in article 45ce4e2a$0$31845$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "IK" <I.K(a)iinet.net.au> wrote: > atec wrote: >> >> Hammo wrote: >> >>> "Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Hammo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually, I'm gonna use solar power! >>>> >>>> Isn't petrol just very old solar power? >>> >>> Will I need to use synthetic or mineral oil? >>> >>> Hammo >>> >> Olive ? > > Leave the man out of this. R'spect.... Hammo
From: G-S on 11 Feb 2007 05:26
Dale Porter wrote: > "G-S" <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote in message news:12ssgjljmbg0s65(a)corp.supernews.com... >> jlittler(a)my-deja.com wrote: >>> On Feb 10, 8:47 pm, Kathryn Vickers <iamsista...(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >>>> Sing along with me now (al la Summer Holiday) >>>> "Hammo's playing Devil's Advocate >>>> Trying to get bites from one or two >>>> He'll keep going 'til you lose your rag with it, >>>> Pedantic bantering keeps him sane >>>> There's nothing you can do" >>> While patently true, there's a difference between obstinately arguing >>> an inaccurate, irrelevant or indefensible point and being a devil's >>> advocate that Hammo always seems to miss >>> >> And this is exactly the difference in style of comment between someone like Dales father and Hammo... >> >> > > And IIRC, you have experienced my father playing Devil's Advocate at some point. > Indeed :) G-S |