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From: Knobdoodle on 12 Feb 2007 05:36 "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message news:C1F66000.262DE%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au... > > > > On 12/2/07 12:48 PM, in article > 45cfc78a$0$31884$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "Nev.." > <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: > >> Knobdoodle wrote: >> >>> [crinkles brow] >>> What's this new diversion you're trying now Hammo? >>> "the inefficiencies of the internal combustion engine."?!!? >>> What the hell has that got to do with the fuel waste through unnecessary >>> use >>> of driving lights? >> >> Eh? I thought we'd already established that there was no waste, or, if >> there was, it was only measurable at a theoretical level. > > I don't know either, I have to keep pointing things out as someone else is > trying to "divert". > Heh heh; another good one Hammo! -- Clem
From: Nev.. on 12 Feb 2007 05:40 G-S wrote: > Nev.. wrote: >> Knobdoodle wrote: >> >>> [crinkles brow] >>> What's this new diversion you're trying now Hammo? >>> "the inefficiencies of the internal combustion engine."?!!? >>> What the hell has that got to do with the fuel waste through >>> unnecessary use of driving lights? >> >> Eh? I thought we'd already established that there was no waste, or, >> if there was, it was only measurable at a theoretical level. >> > No we established that you car fuel measuring device wasn't sensitive > enough to measure it but that practical measurment devices for measuring > the effect did in fact exist :) No. I established 'facts' by gathering data, you made 'unsubstantiated allegations' about the data collection method in order to discredit that data. Nev.. '04 CBR1100XX
From: Knobdoodle on 12 Feb 2007 05:44 "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: > "jlittler(a)my-deja.com" <jlittler(a)my-deja.com> wrote: >> The measure inputs are then used to calculate other things based on >> assumptions. > > Assumptions. Yes, that is the basis of theories. Some prefer hypothesis > as > it makes them sound "scientific" as assumptions has a connotations that > often relates to a rationalisation that is erroneous. The closer the > "assumption" is scrutinised and refreshed, it comes closer to being a real > world applicable and hence increase in accuracy. >> I've diverted the dylithium chrystals to the obfuscator and run it at full power Captain; god hope that'll hold them! > (snip)> Interesting to note you didn't include better quality fuel. > Engineering reports that full power has now been re-established to the diversion-generators! -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 12 Feb 2007 05:53 "Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message news:C1F680F3.26300%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au... > <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message >>> Knobdoodle wrote: >>>> [crinkles brow] >>>> What's this new diversion you're trying now Hammo? >>>> "the inefficiencies of the internal combustion engine."?!!? >>>> What the hell has that got to do with the fuel waste through >>>> unnecessary >>>> use of driving lights? >>> >>> Eh? I thought we'd already established that there was no waste, or, if >>> there was, it was only measurable at a theoretical level. >>> >> When did we establish THAT?!!? >> Sure I agreed that there seems to be some bike charging systems that run >> flat-out all the time (something I have no experience of but something >> I've >> been assured [by aus.moto posters] is fairly common on modern bikes. [but >> has since been refuted by GS]) but, as pointed out by Dale, this was a >> discussion about car electrics and no-one has identified any cars that >> use >> that system. > > Sharkey is popping around with his oscilloscope, so will see if that *is* > going on in the car. >> Oscilloscopes measure fuel usage now do they? > >> Besides; what does "only measurable at a theoretical level" matter? >> Isn't >> theorising what we're doing here? >> How else are you gonna' measure it; leave your car idling for 30 hours >> with >> and without the headlights on and see which ones stops first? > > No, JL doesn't want that, he is going for "domestic". > I hit them with an obfuscation blast captain, and I'm waiting to see if they're diverted! -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 12 Feb 2007 05:59
"Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message news:45d04432$0$31863$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > G-S wrote: >> Nev.. wrote: >>> Knobdoodle wrote: >>> >>>> [crinkles brow] >>>> What's this new diversion you're trying now Hammo? >>>> "the inefficiencies of the internal combustion engine."?!!? >>>> What the hell has that got to do with the fuel waste through >>>> unnecessary use of driving lights? >>> >>> Eh? I thought we'd already established that there was no waste, or, if >>> there was, it was only measurable at a theoretical level. >>> >> No we established that you car fuel measuring device wasn't sensitive >> enough to measure it but that practical measurment devices for measuring >> the effect did in fact exist :) > > No. I established 'facts' by gathering data, you made 'unsubstantiated > allegations' about the data collection method in order to discredit that > data. > Yeah OK; if you reckon that reading a Holden trip-computer is "gathering data" and you wanna' dismiss logic and an understanding of electromagnetic force as "unsubstantiated allegations" then go for it! It's probably a better face-saving option than some of Hamish's silliness. -- Clem (I notice Andrew McKenna pulled his head in once it was properly explained to him) |