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From: Knobdoodle on 15 Feb 2007 04:15 "Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote in message news:45d396d4$1(a)news.bekkers.com.au... > Knobdoodle wrote: >> "Hammo" wrote > >>> I'm pointing out things that do have a bearing on how the load >>> (power) is stored and released. It not one way traffic... > >> Oh I don't doubt that it's all very important to YOU Hammo. >> It just doesn't have any relevance to the points anybody ELSE is >> debating! > > Our friend Hambone thinks he is playing Devil's Advocate, but doesn't > appear to have grasped the point that a Devil's Advocate argues the > opposite viewpoint. Hambone thinks it means talking about something > totally unrelated to the original debate. > I'm voting for "Hammoflage" (meaning "true but irrelevant details introduced into a debate in an attempt to divert the debate away from the point you're losing") to be included in the aus.moto lexicon. I reckon I'm on a winner too! -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 15 Feb 2007 04:17 "sharkey" <sharkey(a)zoic.org> wrote: > I'll try not to post sensible bits too often so as not to confuse you! > I appreciate the effort you've put in so far Sharks. -- Clem
From: Hammo on 15 Feb 2007 06:13 On 15/2/07 10:09 AM, in article 45d396d4$1(a)news.bekkers.com.au, "Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote: > Knobdoodle wrote: >> "Hammo" wrote > >>> I'm pointing out things that do have a bearing on how the load >>> (power) is stored and released. It not one way traffic... > >> Oh I don't doubt that it's all very important to YOU Hammo. >> It just doesn't have any relevance to the points anybody ELSE is >> debating! > > Our friend Hambone thinks he is playing Devil's Advocate, but doesn't appear > to have grasped the point that a Devil's Advocate argues the opposite > viewpoint. Hambone thinks it means talking about something totally unrelated > to the original debate. ? As I pointed out before, I do enough advocating at work, I don't need to here. I keep the playing of devil's advocate for when the conversation can flow. Hammo
From: Hammo on 15 Feb 2007 06:13 I've "landed". Will get round to it in the next while.... Hammo On 15/2/07 10:04 AM, in article slrnet75bc.3l6.sharkey(a)anchovy.zoic.org, "sharkey" <sharkey(a)zoic.org> wrote: > Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: >> >> Here from Wiki seeing as Wanky has become the level of "evidence" >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque > > Yes, and, your point was? Big's calculations seem pretty sensible to me > as back-of-the-envelope estimates go. They agree near enough with G-S's > experiment, and if G-S repeated his measurements a few times back and > forth then it's not such a bad experiment. "The lights use energy, and > that energy has to come from the fuel" seems pretty justifiable, > thermodynamically speaking. > > There's the issue of shunt regulation, still, and for a shunt regulated > vehicle having the lights on or off won't make any difference. I'm > still looking into this, I know there are modern switch-mode regulators > for bikes (the EnDuraLast generator kit used one) but I don't know when > or whether they were widely adopted. > > The XLV regulator, which seems to be a pretty typical eighties Honda > design, is actually kind of a "switch-shunt" regulator, in that it seems > to shunt the phases with SCRs. This would cause 90% of the voltage > drop (and thus the waste heat) to be across the generator coils rather > than the SCR junction. This heat would be taken away by the engine oil. > > The EnDuraLast one I mention is "switch-series", and when I get the XLV > running again I'll try some experiments and maybe replace the regulator > with a better one. > > Anyone got one of the infamous VFR regulators handy if I can work out a > simple test to tell the difference? > >> I know I am tangential most of the time, but I thought I wouldn't have "join >> the dots" Apologies to IK. > > Humour me. I'm feeling very stupid today, and I can't work out whether > you think you have a point or you're just trolling on. > > -----sharks
From: Dale Porter on 15 Feb 2007 06:41
"Hammo" <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote > > ? As I pointed out before, I do enough advocating at work, I don't need to > here. I keep the playing of devil's advocate for when the conversation can > flow. > > Some here may argue that you're keeping it for when you know what you're talking about. -- Dale Porter GPX250 -> CBR600 -> VTR1000 + VT250F-J |