Next: HotSprings Camping
From: XR650L_Dave on 18 Apr 2007 19:19
On Apr 18, 6:55 pm, "Joseph Rooney" <ikeroone...(a)pcmagic.net> wrote:
> "XR650L_Dave" <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176923318.434576.9400(a)b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 1:38 pm, "Joseph Rooney" <ikeroone...(a)pcmagic.net> wrote:
> > > "XR650L_Dave" <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1176906307.260529.14460(a)y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > I'm following up on the possibility that the advance curve for an
> > > > XR600R is significantly more aggressive than that for an XR650L.
>
> > > > Its not so easy to test directly, since the XRL CDI takes in 12V and
> > > > the 600R CDI uses the 100VAC or so straight from the stator.
>
> > > > DDave
>
> > > Hi DDave,
>
> > > I believe Honda handed off manufacture of replacement CDI's for the
> 600's to
> > > Shindengen. I don't know exactly when, but I was left with the
> impression
> > > that Shindengen tinkered with advance, among other characteristics for
> > > easier starting and more power. I think I read about it on the web
> > > someplace.
>
> > > You say the 650 needs 100vAC, the 600's supply alot more with each kick,
> I
> > > got figures in excess of 400vAC P-P with a working CDI on my XL600R
> 1987.
>
> > > Out of the repair manual:
>
> > > Ignition timing initial 1983 6 deg btdc @1200rpm
> > > after 1983 11 deg btdc @1300rpm
> > > Full advance 31 dec btdc(a)4000rpm
>
> > > Joe
>
> > > XL600R
>
> > Thanks, Joe.
>
> > Good info both posts.
>
> > The 100VAC was a placeholder number someone bandied about.
>
> > The XRL just gets 12V to the CDI, all the time. Yet, it is reputed to
> > pop-start without the battery.
>
> > I have to confess I'm not sure if the XRL has a 'magneto' like an
> > XR600R that just has a rectifier/regulator on it, or if it has a 'full-
> > up alternator' (meaning "something other than an XR600R magneto" in
> > this context), minus the variable field-coils, of course.
>
> > This test would be easy to run, if I could power a 600R CDI direct off
> > the XRL 'alternator'. Word on the street is, at cranking speeds,
> > there's not enough juice.
>
> > DDave
>
> DDave,
>
> I can send you my used but working spare 30410-MG2-892 MODULE IGN CONT if
> you want to investigate. I'd like it back.
>
> I wonder if the part number is the same? But, I suspect the 650 can run w/o
> the battery. I don't remember if there was a kick starter in the ones I
> looked at years ago.
>
> On an unrelated note, there was a 1997, I think, XR650L that wouldn't run,
> but cranked on Craig's list for $750.00 here in over-priced California.
>
> I spent a restless night on that one, don't have a garage.
>
> I'd say, look on eBay for pictures, maybe the connectors are different. But
> this module has two Molex type connectors, the connector with two pins is
> the trigger and the other connector is key on, the AC from the stator and
> ground.
>
> Joe
>
> XL600R


If I get to the point of trying one out, I might ask for it.

Thanks-

DDave

From: Paul Kemp on 2 May 2007 06:51
So Dave,
Are you looking for a CDI for the XR600? I have an extra one that I can
ship to you for a reasonable price. If you like, you can e-mail me
directly at the above address for more details.

Paul Kemp
Known as "The Rock" since 1980.


First  |  Prev  | 
Pages: 1 2 3
Next: HotSprings Camping