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From: Ben Kaufman on 12 Apr 2010 08:08
In the May 2010 issue of Motorcyclist pg. 116, ,a rider tells his story of how
after being in an accident that was a cager's fault (and the cager essentially
admitted that to him right after the accident), while the rider was being
treated by paramedics the cager rewrote history to the officer and none of the
witnesses who saw the accident were interviewed and had left, and the cagers
distorted version made everything the fault of the rider.

So unless you are badly injured, make it a priority to get the names of
witnesses and don't trust the other guy to fess up.

Ben
From: Datesfat Chicks on 12 Apr 2010 09:07
"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars(a)pobox.com> wrote in message
news:bb26s5lcm8jtacek5tdoe1sd9h5109j22t(a)4ax.com...
> In the May 2010 issue of Motorcyclist pg. 116, ,a rider tells his story of
> how
> after being in an accident that was a cager's fault (and the cager
> essentially
> admitted that to him right after the accident), while the rider was being
> treated by paramedics the cager rewrote history to the officer and none of
> the
> witnesses who saw the accident were interviewed and had left, and the
> cagers
> distorted version made everything the fault of the rider.
>
> So unless you are badly injured, make it a priority to get the names of
> witnesses and don't trust the other guy to fess up.

A couple of things come to mind:

a)First, the police should have naturally retained the identitities of the
witnesses before releasing them ...

b)Second, failure to "fess up" on the part of the cager isn't the only
explanation. Whenever someone is responsible for the injury of another,
they are bound immediately to blame themselves, but they may reconsider
later when the shock has worn off.

For example, let's say I'm driving down the street and a child runs out in
front of me and I accidentally kill them. Even if there is nothing I could
have done, I may blame myself initially until I really think about it.

Also, there is the possibility that the cager didn't have the heart to say
essentially to the motorcyclist "you brought this on yourself, buddy".

But of course "rewriting history" is probably the highest-probability
explanation ...

Datesfat

From: Aham Brahmasmi on 12 Apr 2010 10:47
On Apr 12, 7:15 am, "Ding-a-Ling S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

> heh, I'd have

Ding!

Next!
From: don (Calgary) on 12 Apr 2010 19:59
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:08:59 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars(a)pobox.com> wrote:

>In the May 2010 issue of Motorcyclist pg. 116, ,a rider tells his story of how
>after being in an accident that was a cager's fault (and the cager essentially
>admitted that to him right after the accident), while the rider was being
>treated by paramedics the cager rewrote history to the officer and none of the
>witnesses who saw the accident were interviewed and had left, and the cagers
>distorted version made everything the fault of the rider.
>
>So unless you are badly injured, make it a priority to get the names of
>witnesses and don't trust the other guy to fess up.
>
>Ben

This is good advice. About ten years back a lady ran a red light and I
caught her back fender with the front left bumper of my truck. There
was considerable damage.

After checking to see if the driver and the kids in the back seat were
ok, the first thing I did was canvas the pedestrians in the
intersection for witnesses. I found one who saw it all and was willing
to provide his contact info.

At the scene the woman admitted to going through the red light. She
said she didn't see it until a moment before impact. Her husband was
following her in a taxi he was driving. He also admitted she went
right through the red light.

It wasn't until I made it to the police station to fill out the
appropriate reports I was told she and her husband said in their
report I had gone through the red light. Some folks have little regard
for the truth. We see the same disregard for the truth in this forum
far too often.

If it wasn't for the independent witness who gave me his name they
would have split the responsibility for this accident. I would have
had to pay my deductible and suffer higher insurance rates for the
better part of six years.

Yup it pays to get the witness information, even when there appears to
be no question as to fault.
From: Vito on 13 Apr 2010 07:28
don (Calgary) wrote:
>> ..... Some folks have little regard for the truth. ....

Yup! Especially after talking to their lawyer or insuramce agent who will
advise them to NEVER admit responsibility or guilt. You were wise ...


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