From: Pip Luscher on
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:40:32 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT(a)unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > 6. From pix I've seen on the Net, sidecars in Britain are generally
>> > to the left of the bike. Is this true? My Dnepr's hack is on the right,
>> > and apparently neither KMZ nor IMZ makes a left-hand version. So are
>> > there Dnepr and Ural rigs on UK roads with the sidecar to the right?
>>
>> IIRC they're not legal here. One of the sidecar pervs might be able to
>> comment.
>
>They banned l/h chairs some time in the 1980s, on some spurious 'safety'
>excuse. Despite the fact that they could produce no accident stats for
>them.

Err, does l/h mean 'for riding on the left' or 'chair mounted on the
left'? If the latter, then something's wrong!

Are they actually banned outright or can you no longer buy/fit a wrong
side chair but existing ones are OK?
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-Pip
From: doetnietcomputeren on
On 2009-11-22 11:37:47 +0100, Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> said:

>>> 1. Do they have the throttle on the left and clutch on the right hand
>>> side of the bike? (ie, mirror images of the North American arrangement?)
>>
>> Good lord no. Just the same as in the pedal position doesn't change in
>> their cars.
>
> Thanks for the info. Re cars, I suppose that a floor-mounted gear shift
> would still be in the middle, operated by the left hand. (*That* would
> seem very strange at first.

Correct, but it won't take long to get used to. Except the occasional
time where you try to shift with the door handle.


> What about steering-column-mounted gear shifts (standard or automatic)?
> Do they protrude from the right side like here, or on the left?

As far as I am aware, that's a phenomonen not typically found in
Blighty or Europe. I have an automatic and the shifter is in the same
lace as you would find a manual gear lever.

> (And where is the turn signal lever?)

On a stalk behind the steering wheel. Could be left, could be right,
depending on brand.

>>> 6. From pix I've seen on the Net, sidecars in Britain are generally...
>>
>> ... reserved for the insane.
>
> I don't know what's so insane about a sidecar. My g/f categorically refuses
> to ride pillion, no matter what bike. Why not? Don't ask me. (Women
> weren't designed to be understood.) So I got a hack rig. She thinks
> it's fun.

See, insane.

--
Dnc

From: Sean_Q_ on
Nige wrote:
> You people need to get out of that country of yours more you know.

Appreciate the help. However, I got a slight bit of culture shock
over the acronym "YTC". Looking it up I found the following
possibilities:

Yakama Tribal Council
Yakima Training Center (US Army; Yakima, Washington state)
Yearly Training Calendar
Yeshiva Toras Chaim
Yield to Call (securities-bonds)
Yorkshire Tile Company (Sheffield, UK)
Your Top Choices
Youth Training Core
Yuma Test Center (US Army)
Yorkshire Terrier Club
Yoga Teacher Certification
Yamaha Tweetakt Club (Nederland)
Yours To Count [On]
Years To Completion

Enlightenment would be welcome.
TIA, Sean Patrick ("Paddy") Quinlan, expatriate since 1845
From: Pete Fisher on
In communiqu� <dfent6-0l5.ln1(a)news.rosbif.org>, Cab <me(a)privacy.net>
cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:09:29 +0000, Timo Geusch wibbled:
>
>>> 3. Do you wave at other bikers at all? Or are there so many on UK roads
>>> that you don't bother.
>>
>> A lot of them don't seem to bother, mainly the fair weather
>> squids. Those of us who are stupid enough to ride all year round usually
>> acknowledge other riders.
>
>Unless you're in France then you get the "sideways V" or leg waggling.
>
>French bikers tend to be more civilised than Brit bikers. :-)
>


Indeed. I always try to remember to waggle a leg at car drivers who make
a conscious effort to move out of your way when in France (which happens
a lot on twisty D roads). In blighty I usually nod at other bikes and
give a small left hand wave to cars that are helpful when filtering. If
filtering on the motorway though I am usually loaded up or carrying a
pillion so I revert to the gallic leg waggle - well I am often on a
French bike after all.
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From: sweller on
Pip Luscher wrote:

> > What about steering-column-mounted gear shifts (standard or
> > automatic)? Do they protrude from the right side like here, or on
> > the left? (And where is the turn signal lever?)
>
> Column shifts are rare here. I haven't seen one in years.

Column shifts tend to be on the right - the last one I had was on a 1975
SAAB 96 (manual).

The old Jag autos were on the right too.

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Simon
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