From: Speedgazebo MOTP #1 on
I have just got back from a short ride, apart from my helmet I was
only wearing a tee shirt, short and trainers. I am sure that some here
will get all smug and think that this is irresponsible, dangerous and
stupid because it's so dangerous. The fact is that I often ride like
that when it's hot because I enjoy it.
I didn't crash and got home alive and well, obviously, had I had an
accident I would be well and truly fucked, I know that, and I decided
to take that risk and rode reasonably cautiously as a result. If I had
been in "proper" gear I probably would have taken more chances and
ridden faster. So, is it actually safer to ride in almost nothing,
because because of the awareness consequences of things going wrong,
or in loads of armour and stuff with a sense of invulnerability ?
I recon that statistically riders have far more accidents and offs in
leathers etc. than in shorts, I can't find any stats to support this,
but I wouldn't mind betting it's true.

Oh yeah, Is riding in shorts and tee shirts called squibing?

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Speedgazebo
From: J�r�my on
"Speedgazebo MOTP #1" <nickaird(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:e134a920-901d-
4d86-ae23-7d572aefdaec(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> I have just got back from a short ride, apart from my helmet I was
> only wearing a tee shirt, short and trainers. I am sure that some here
> will get all smug and think that this is irresponsible, dangerous and
> stupid because it's so dangerous. The fact is that I often ride like
> that when it's hot because I enjoy it.
> I didn't crash and got home alive and well, obviously, had I had an
> accident I would be well and truly fucked, I know that, and I decided
> to take that risk and rode reasonably cautiously as a result. If I had
> been in "proper" gear I probably would have taken more chances and
> ridden faster. So, is it actually safer to ride in almost nothing,
> because because of the awareness consequences of things going wrong,
> or in loads of armour and stuff with a sense of invulnerability ?
> I recon that statistically riders have far more accidents and offs in
> leathers etc. than in shorts, I can't find any stats to support this,
> but I wouldn't mind betting it's true.
>
> Oh yeah, Is riding in shorts and tee shirts called squibing?

It really depends whether you had the several generous aperitifs before
you left, or after you got back.

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Jeremy
R1200RT
From: Pip Luscher on
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:01:53 -0700 (PDT), "Speedgazebo MOTP #1"
<nickaird(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>I have just got back from a short ride, apart from my helmet I was
>only wearing a tee shirt, short and trainers. I am sure that some here
>will get all smug and think that this is irresponsible, dangerous and
>stupid because it's so dangerous. The fact is that I often ride like
>that when it's hot because I enjoy it.

You wild dare-devil, you.

>I didn't crash and got home alive and well, obviously, had I had an
>accident I would be well and truly fucked, I know that, and I decided
>to take that risk and rode reasonably cautiously as a result. If I had
>been in "proper" gear I probably would have taken more chances and
>ridden faster. So, is it actually safer to ride in almost nothing,
>because because of the awareness consequences of things going wrong,
>or in loads of armour and stuff with a sense of invulnerability ?

Umm. No idea of the stats but I sure as hell ride more carefully when
wearing, say, thin trousers. I can't recall the last time I wore
shorts on a bike.

Jeans make me feel safer but of course don't really offer much
protection - I've had some nasty bloody grazes from falling off in
jeans, at least one of which was a push-bike accident.

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-Pip
From: Pip on
Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote:

> I have just got back from a short ride, apart from my helmet I was
> only wearing a tee shirt, short and trainers. I am sure that some here
> will get all smug and think that this is irresponsible, dangerous and
> stupid because it's so dangerous. The fact is that I often ride like
> that when it's hot because I enjoy it.

So do I. Have done, this week, too. Not died.

> I didn't crash and got home alive and well, obviously, had I had an
> accident I would be well and truly fucked, I know that, and I decided
> to take that risk and rode reasonably cautiously as a result. If I had
> been in "proper" gear I probably would have taken more chances and
> ridden faster. So, is it actually safer to ride in almost nothing,
> because because of the awareness consequences of things going wrong,
> or in loads of armour and stuff with a sense of invulnerability ?
> I recon that statistically riders have far more accidents and offs in
> leathers etc. than in shorts, I can't find any stats to support this,
> but I wouldn't mind betting it's true.

"Perceived risk", innit? They did a test on car drivers on a mock road
circuit, with and without seatbelts. When driving without a belt,
almost all were better postioned, with many fewer minor faults - and
20% slower everywhere.
>
> Oh yeah, Is riding in shorts and tee shirts called squibing?

Dunno, but if it was it would surely be squibbing.

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SIRPip : B12
From: Speedgazebo MOTP #1 on
On 5 June, 19:35, "Pip" <gingerbl...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Speedgazebo  MOTP #1 wrote:
>
> > I have just got back from a short ride, apart from my helmet I was
> > only wearing a tee shirt, short and trainers. I am sure that some here
> > will get all smug and think that this is irresponsible, dangerous and
> > stupid because it's so dangerous. The fact is that I often ride like
> > that when it's hot because I enjoy it.
>
> So do I.  Have done, this week, too.  Not died.
>
> > I didn't crash and got home alive and well, obviously, had I had an
> > accident I would be well and truly fucked, I know that, and I decided
> > to take that risk and rode reasonably cautiously as a result. If I had
> > been in "proper" gear I probably would have taken more chances and
> > ridden faster. So,  is it actually safer to ride in almost nothing,
> > because because of the awareness consequences of things going wrong,
> > or in loads of armour and stuff with a sense of invulnerability ?
> > I recon that statistically riders have far more accidents and offs in
> > leathers etc. than in shorts, I can't find any stats to support this,
> > but I wouldn't mind betting it's true.
>
> "Perceived risk", innit?  They did a test on car drivers on a mock road
> circuit, with and without seatbelts.  When driving without a belt,
> almost all were better postioned, with many fewer minor faults - and
> 20% slower everywhere.
>
>
>
> > Oh yeah, Is riding in shorts and tee shirts called squibing?
>
> Dunno, but if it was it would surely be squibbing.

Yes, it probably would.

I have to add a footnote to the original post, I did actually suffer
an injury I wouldn't have if I was properly dressed. I burnt my leg on
the bloody exhaust pipe when I got off it at home.

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Speedgazebo