From: 1949 Whizzer on
On Oct 8, 9:17 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I think if Krusty and other Yanks want to see all-day high-speed
> riding, they really need to pop over to Europe.

If I ever go back to Europe, it won't be to ride motorcycles, it will
be to tour historic buildings and museums.


From: The Older Gentleman on
1949 Whizzer <macmiled(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> The Evil Clown that you know as
> Neil Murray crossposted his troll to the UK groups just to stir up his
> usual shite.

I did? Are you sure it wasn't the OP?


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From: SpamTrapSeeSig on
In article
<c145fd22-8e0f-4a2d-94cd-c638a1d4d521(a)x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, 1949
Whizzer <macmiled(a)gmail.com> writes
>On Oct 8, 9:03�am, SpamTrapSeeSig <no-...(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> OK, California's a big place, but 'high-speed roads'? Californians
>> invented longitudinal six-lane parking (which I've 'enjoyed' on 101 in
>> the past, several times).
>
>That only happens during the two rush hours on the sections from the
>stoplight at State St. in Santa Barbara to downtown Los Angeles, a
>distance of about 100 miles.

I know the LA bit to which you refer too, and that's even more
unattractive than the bit I was thinking of. So it happens there too!
The difference down in LA, I suppose, is the propensity to open up with
automatic weapons when boredom sets in.

>And there is no place where 101 has six lanes, so far as I recall.

Regarding how many lanes, I'm fairly certain there are a number of
sections in the Bay area with five or six lanes each way, but I only
meant six altogether.

>Avid motorcyclists learned long ago that they needed to get up early
>to beat the cagers if they wanted to use the 101 to go anywhere on
>Sunday.

Yeah, that's another bit of pan-US weirdness - why, in so many states,
is it illegal to filter bikes through traffic? It seems totally daft to
me. On several occasions I've driven (in a car) for miles in suburban
Colorado too, every so often pulling alongside the same bike held up at
yet another red light. It's daft.

>The cagers usually don't get onto the road before 11:00 AM and by that
>time, Sunday riders who gathered at the Rock Store are typically on
>their way home to watch a football game or to get in their own cage
>and take their wife to the mall.
>
>> If you're trying to impress a British NG, you might want to mention
>> taking it over to the IoM for the TT...
>
>I'm not trying to impress *anybody*. The Evil Clown that you know as
>Neil Murray crossposted his troll to the UK groups just to stir up his
>usual shite.

Well, your mileage does vary, for sure! "His usual shite" is generally
considered valuable round 'ere.

But you were talking about 'fast' roads in California. I've driven
Sacramento to SF in <3hours in the middle of the night (Highway 280,
IIRC, starting around 2AM, in a car), but it was neither safe (after
midnight it's no longer a legal requirement to look when pulling onto a
major road, it seems), nor even close to German autobahn speeds. I've
also driven Highway 5 south of Seattle, and I'd say daytime speeds on
that are considerably higher than California, once you get out of the
built-up areas.

But as I said, I'm sure your mileage varies...
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From: 1949 Whizzer on
On Oct 8, 11:26 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Evil Clown)
wrote:
> 1949 Whizzer <macmi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's cut you some slack. What, exactly, was wrong with the advice given
> by Mark, Badger and myself?

Nothing. I typed "They salt the roads in England, don't they?", then
you morphed into your Evil Clown personality.

Go ahead, tell me that I'm stupid and that I have no sense of
"humour".

Type it a thousand times. Whatever it takes for you to experience your
way through this situation of causality.


From: 1949 Whizzer on
On Oct 8, 11:34 am, SpamTrapSeeSig <no-...(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> The difference down in LA, I suppose, is the propensity to open up with
> automatic weapons when boredom sets in.

Objection. Hyperbole. Sustained.

> Regarding how many lanes, I'm fairly certain there are a number of
> sections in the Bay area with five or six lanes each way, but I only
> meant six altogether.

That's a very over-populated area too, with traffic-jammed rush hours.
It's actually worse than Los Angeles in that respect.

> Yeah, that's another bit of pan-US weirdness - why, in so many states,
> is it illegal to filter bikes through traffic?

It's caused by the kind of ignorance which is synonymous with bigotry.
The people of sparsely populated states don't want anybody to pass
them in order to clear out a traffic jam, and they act like a
filtering motorcyclist is some kind of felon when he splits lanes.

Narrow-minded people like that have to be convinced that filtering
really is a *better way*. However, the largest number of motorcycles
registered in the USA is in Southern California, where the traffic is
so congested that police cruisers cannot catch a lane-splitting rider
during rush hour.

> >I'm not trying to impress *anybody*. The Evil Clown that you know as
> >Neil Murray crossposted his troll to the UK groups just to stir up his
> >usual shite.
>
> Well, your mileage does vary, for sure! "His usual shite" is generally
> considered valuable round 'ere.

He's been wanting to argue with me for ten years, so I'm familiar with
his tricks to get me to respond.

> But you were talking about 'fast' roads in California.

I avoid riding at 100 mph or more.

Most left lane traffic on the Interstate highways will be cruising at
around 85 mph,
and the California Highway Patrol will pick out the most flagrant
violator, the one who makes himself obvious by moving from lane to
lane to pass traffic that's cruising above the maximum speed limit.

Motorists caught exceeding 100 mph will pay a $500 fine to the local
municipality for the first offense, plus a 50% penalty that goes to
the state of California.

The judge has the discretion as to whether to suspend the convicted
motorist's license. The motorist's license must be suspended on the
second offense.

Each succeeding offense adds about 50% to the fine, so the third
offense will
cost the impatient motorist about $1500 and he'll be walking or riding
in someone else's vehicle for a few years, unless he needs a waiver to
operate a vehicle in the pursuit of his employment.

However, if he has no valid license, he may find himself unemployed as
a result of the suspension.