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From: crn on 31 May 2010 09:08 Naqerj <pattle(a)globalnet.co.invalid> wrote: > crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > > > Back in the 1950s cyclemotors under a certain size were exempt > > Not in the UK they weren't. There were only a couple of exemptions: one > was from purchase tax [1] and the other was an obscure one that allowed > you to ride a cyclemotor-powered tandems on L-plates when the stoker > didn't have a full licence either. But that's all. Mine dew, there > were a lot fewer regulations then anyway: no SVA, not MoT, no compulsory > helmets... Hmmmmm - My mother had one of those little engines with a roller that presses on the wheel back when I were a lad in the early 1950s. No number plates or licencing and there were quite a few around at the time. Nasty noisy little things and you had to pedal so hard standing up on the pedals that it wobbled all over the road before it started in a cloud of 2smoke. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project, 78 400/4 in black 68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic) 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: The Older Gentleman on 31 May 2010 09:35 <crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote: > My mother had one of those little engines with a roller that presses > on the wheel back when I were a lad in the early 1950s. > No number plates or licencing and there were quite a few around at > the time. Times (and legislation) have changed in the intervening half-century, mind. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Naqerj on 31 May 2010 09:50 crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > Naqerj <pattle(a)globalnet.co.invalid> wrote: >> crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: >> >>> Back in the 1950s cyclemotors under a certain size were exempt >> Not in the UK they weren't. There were only a couple of exemptions: one >> was from purchase tax [1] and the other was an obscure one that allowed >> you to ride a cyclemotor-powered tandems on L-plates when the stoker >> didn't have a full licence either. But that's all. Mine dew, there >> were a lot fewer regulations then anyway: no SVA, not MoT, no compulsory >> helmets... > > Hmmmmm - > My mother had one of those little engines with a roller that presses > on the wheel back when I were a lad in the early 1950s. > No number plates or licencing and there were quite a few around at > the time. If that's the case, she was breaking the law. They had to be licensed in the UK even in the 1950s. Was it one of these? http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/mm1954.jpg Picture taken on 26 May 1954 of George Denton (Trojan Sales Manager) on a Mini-Motor *with a number plate*. -- Andrew
From: crn on 31 May 2010 12:33 Naqerj <pattle(a)globalnet.co.invalid> wrote: > > > > Hmmmmm - > > My mother had one of those little engines with a roller that presses > > on the wheel back when I were a lad in the early 1950s. > > No number plates or licencing and there were quite a few around at > > the time. > > If that's the case, she was breaking the law. They had to be licensed > in the UK even in the 1950s. > > Was it one of these? > > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/mm1954.jpg > > Picture taken on 26 May 1954 of George Denton (Trojan Sales Manager) on > a Mini-Motor *with a number plate*. No, it was a little French contraption, I think[1] that they might have had a smaller engine than the Trojan. [1] But it was nearly 60 years ago ...... -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project, 78 400/4 in black 68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic) 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: Rusty Hinge on 31 May 2010 18:46
crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > Naqerj <pattle(a)globalnet.co.invalid> wrote: >> crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: >> >>> Back in the 1950s cyclemotors under a certain size were exempt >> Not in the UK they weren't. There were only a couple of exemptions: one >> was from purchase tax [1] and the other was an obscure one that allowed >> you to ride a cyclemotor-powered tandems on L-plates when the stoker >> didn't have a full licence either. But that's all. Mine dew, there >> were a lot fewer regulations then anyway: no SVA, not MoT, no compulsory >> helmets... > > Hmmmmm - > My mother had one of those little engines with a roller that presses > on the wheel back when I were a lad in the early 1950s. > No number plates or licencing and there were quite a few around at > the time. > Nasty noisy little things and you had to pedal so hard standing up > on the pedals that it wobbled all over the road before it started > in a cloud of 2smoke. Velo Solex on the front wheel, or Power Pack on the back, IIRC. The Cyclemotor lived in the back wheel, I think. Many moons ago I had most of a Wall Auto Wheel - you attached it to the bike frame rather like a banking sidecar. Got it from a scrapyard - it'd be worth a fortune now. -- Rusty |