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From: crn on 30 May 2010 06:20 Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE(a)removegmail.com> wrote: > > Many students in America are buying these Chinese bolt-ons for > commuting. I can see it catching on here as petrol prices get ever > higher and the cost of keeping a small car or bigger bike just for doing > a few miles to/from work adds up. > 100+mpg 40mph 48cc - a lot of car drivers out there with a licence > already. Also, anyone with a Honda stepthrough would be advised to keep > it or put parts aside for it, from now on. Cheap if you already have a suitable pushbike but Chinese scoots give you an electric start, some weather protection, a bit of style and half-decent brakes for not many more pennies. Back in the 1950s cyclemotors under a certain size were exempt but nowadays I suspect that every one would need a Single Vehicle Approval and a Q plate. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project, 78 400/4 in black 68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic) 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: Naqerj on 31 May 2010 05:35 crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > Back in the 1950s cyclemotors under a certain size were exempt Not in the UK they weren't. There were only a couple of exemptions: one was from purchase tax [1] and the other was an obscure one that allowed you to ride a cyclemotor-powered tandems on L-plates when the stoker didn't have a full licence either. But that's all. Mine dew, there were a lot fewer regulations then anyway: no SVA, not MoT, no compulsory helmets... > but > nowadays I suspect that every one would need a Single Vehicle Approval You suspect correctly. > and a Q plate. Maybe, or a current plate if you use a new engine and a new push-bike. [1] Though that one wasn't exclusive to cyclemotors - the little build-it-yourself Excelsiors slipped through the same loophole. -- Andrew
From: Rusty Hinge on 31 May 2010 05:52 Naqerj wrote: > crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > >> Back in the 1950s cyclemotors under a certain size were exempt > > Not in the UK they weren't. There were only a couple of exemptions: one > was from purchase tax [1] and the other was an obscure one that allowed > you to ride a cyclemotor-powered tandems on L-plates when the stoker > didn't have a full licence either. But that's all. Mine dew, there > were a lot fewer regulations then anyway: no SVA, not MoT, no compulsory > helmets... > >> but >> nowadays I suspect that every one would need a Single Vehicle Approval > > You suspect correctly. > >> and a Q plate. > > Maybe, or a current plate if you use a new engine and a new push-bike. > > [1] Though that one wasn't exclusive to cyclemotors - the little > build-it-yourself Excelsiors slipped through the same loophole. Must have been a little one to slip through a loophole. And not wearing a tandem��, at that. �� Marvellous portmanteau word... -- Rusty
From: Naqerj on 31 May 2010 06:25 Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: > http://www.pbase.com/lulalake/image/125039803/original.jpg > > http://www.pbase.com/lulalake/image/125039806/original.jpg > > http://www.pbase.com/lulalake/image/125039810/original.jpg > > Many students in America are buying these Chinese bolt-ons for > commuting. I can see it catching on here as petrol prices get ever > higher and the cost of keeping a small car or bigger bike just for doing > a few miles to/from work adds up. > 100+mpg 40mph 48cc - a lot of car drivers out there with a licence > already. Also, anyone with a Honda stepthrough would be advised to keep > it or put parts aside for it, from now on. What a horrible bodge! I bet that front engine mounting won't last long - if my guess about why it's lock-nutted is correct. -- Andrew
From: The Older Gentleman on 31 May 2010 08:00
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > http://www.pbase.com/lulalake/image/125039803/original.jpg > > http://www.pbase.com/lulalake/image/125039806/original.jpg > > http://www.pbase.com/lulalake/image/125039810/original.jpg > > Many students in America are buying these Chinese bolt-ons for > commuting. I can see it catching on here as petrol prices get ever > higher and the cost of keeping a small car or bigger bike just for doing > a few miles to/from work adds up. I can't. C&U regs knock them straight out of contention. <Deep breath> It's a powered road vehicle now (and not an electric bicycle) so indicators, proper lights, all the necessary reflectors, brake lights front and rear, lights must be mounted a certain height from the ground, fuel tank must have been proerly tested, number plate, MoT, etc etc etc -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |