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From: Henry on 27 Feb 2007 18:15 BrianNZ wrote: > Rather than waffle on trying to troll old posts, just keep to your > points with Mitchell Jones. It's making for interesting reading and > there's a few points he's brought to your attention that you > haven't responded to. Too bad I missed them. Can you repost them so I can take a look and reply? This is about the fifth time you were asked, by the way. Apparently, those interesting points are as hard to find as a photo of the gale force wind driven core melting raging infernos in the towers. <g> Doesn't it seem weird to write a post asking someone to respond to a few interesting points, but when they ask you which points, you just wonder off? Most folks would consider that to be rather bizarre behavior. Here's an example of a point MJ made that I think is highly speculative and most likely impossible. He claimed that spilled fuel from the jets burned inside the cores of the towers just as hot as an oil fired forge, even melting the massive core box columns. The forge not only burns fuel that has been vaporized and the air fuel mixture optimized, but oxygen is forced in under pressure. A reasonably intelligent, logical person would ask how that could have been duplicated inside the towers by spilled kerosene that may have run down the sides of some of the steel columns. The answer of course, is that it can't possibly be duplicated for reasons so obvious that I won't insult your intelligence by explaining them. That claim is typical of the wild speculation, implausible, and and even impossible scenarios we see from followers of the "official" conspiracy theory. They must know it's all bullshit, or they wouldn't take off running when they're asked very clear, reasonable, and logical questions. <g> -- http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
From: Henry on 27 Feb 2007 18:37 Road Glidin' Don wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:46:34 -0500, Henry <treason(a)bush.gov> wrote: >> Why should I stop exposing parrots of the Bush regime's >> impossible magic fire theory as misinformed, and their >> comical conspiracy theory as impossible? It's my moral >> and civic duty, I'm enjoying it immensely, and I'm exposing >> the official theory as impossible nonsense. Besides, I love >> watching folks like yourself run and hide or make fools of >> yourselves when you're challenged to defend your mindless >> parroting. <vbg> > You ever seen that old Canadian comedy called (IIRC) "Kids in the > Hall?" We're discussing the hard evidence related to the demolition of the twin towers and WTC7. You're incapable of addressing the the hard evidence because you know it proves the Bush regime's magic fire/Super Arab conspiracy to be an impossible and simple minded fairy tale. > They had a character in there who liked to spend his time, framing > people in the distance, between his pointer finger and thumb and > pretending to squish them. As he did so, he would chuckle with evil > delight and say, "Aha! I am squishing you." and then frame another > target to do the same thing, saying "I am squishing you too. Oh, that > hurts, doesn't it?" > While it makes him a pathetic spectacle, it's something he needs, to > feel he's a somebody. So, if you realize how silly you look when you claim that you're crushing my arguments by cowering from a discussion of the facts and hard evidence, why do you do continue to do it? You only make your magic fire theory and its followers seem more comical. What did you think of MJ's claim that the inside of the cores of the towers had the same conditions as an oil fired furnace where the fuel is injected and atomized, there's a continuous supply of fuel, an optimal air fuel mixture is created, and air is forced into the combustion chamber under pressure? Thing is, I know that you realize that's completely a completely absurd assertion because on your web site, I've read some of the involved and detailed mechanical work that you've done to on your Harley. Yet, you have to praise MJ's "explanation" anyway, because your blind faith in the Bush regimes magic fire conspiracy theory and your fear of knowing the truth is so strong, it inhibits your ability to think rationally. So, you nervously and mindlessly mumble about a comedy show instead of addressing the questions you're asked about your magic fire theory. Do you think you'll ever be able to answer the very clear and reasonable questions towards the end of this post? You accuse me of disregarding other peoples' views, yet while I read and reply, you take off running. It's hard to consider your view if you're just gonna disappear when you're asked to present one. <vbg> Road Glidin' Don wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:39:27 -0500, Henry <impeach(a)bush.gov> wrote: >> >> It's very funny, considering that I defend all my claims >> >> with hard evidence, qualified references, facts, and well >> >> articulated logic, > > And disregard anything that challenges your world view. You know I read and reply to every "explanation" given in support of the official conspiracy theory. Then I articulate the distortions, lies, and omissions using photo evidence, qualified references, logic, and common sense. I welcome any and all discussions of the hard evidence, science, and basic physics relating to the attacks and demolitions of 9-11-01. That's how we learn the truth about it. It's silly to say I disregard the official conspiracy theory. I've studied it in great detail. That's how I know it's packed full of lies and physically impossible. Here, try again to answer a couple of very clear, reasonable questions. "Disregarding anything that challenges your world view" is no way to go through life. Observe the rotating and disintegrating block on the South Tower. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html Notice that the corners are curved, as the block's internal destruction is already taking place. If it had not been destroyed through demolition, it would have continued to rotate and fall off the building as an intact block. Also, notice that the block is tilting towards the corner where it was impacted. The opposite corner was undamaged by impact or fire, as proved by photo evidence. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp1.html As the top section of that tower is rotating, the high strength, fire resistant perimeter columns on one side of the building are being compressed, and on the opposite side, where the building was not damaged by fire or impact, their load is lightened. Why do you think the undamaged steel perimeter frame with the weight above reduced is exploding and collapsing at the same rate as the fire and impact damaged side that has the weight of the rotating block on it? Seems more than a little odd, doesn't it? Here's some information on the perimeter columns. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html Now watch the video titled, "Close-up of South Tower collapse on this page: http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse%20update/#videos Does that look like the gradual bending and buckling of an over heated steel frame to you? If so, what do you think is causing those huge explosions and dust clouds that make it look like a controlled demolition? Keep in mind that this is at the onset of the collapse, so nothing is falling quickly yet. -- http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
From: Road Glidin' Don on 27 Feb 2007 18:59 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:23:15 -0500, Henry <trea...(a)bush.gov> wrote: >In addition to chemistry and physics in high school, I finished two >years of college with a math and science emphasis. LOL!
From: Road Glidin' Don on 28 Feb 2007 23:57 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:06:46 -0500, Henry <9-11(a)insidejob.guv> wrote: >Road Glidin' Don wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:23:15 -0500, Henry <trea...(a)bush.gov> wrote: > >>> In addition to chemistry and physics in high school, I finished two >>> years of college with a math and science emphasis. > >> LOL! > > Hey, without a high school and college education, I might have >suffered your fate and been kicked around between dead end jobs >year after year. Don't knock it until you try it! > I've had the same rewarding, challenging, stress free, pleasant, >comfortable, secure, good paying job with great benefits for over >20 years. And I don't even need the money! I live on the income >from my lightly mortgaged multi million dollar collection of rental >properties. I don't even touch my paychecks! Heh, heh. Wow. No relationships. Obviously a life you can measure only in terms of money. I'm just devastated in the face of your amazing success. You must truly be happy. I mean, surely there's no reason you're trying to persuade me it's true, right? It's just so obvious! I can see it clearly by how you're always so focused on the positive things in life. The mouth speaks what the heart is full of. You just go on and on about the things that make you happy and there's hardly ever a time you dwell on people you dislike. Here I was, thinking my life was fulfilled because my wife and I raised 2 wonderful children in a stable home, share so many wonderful memories and experiences, overcame things together, are now enjoying 3 grandchildren (with a 4rth on the way), still have a fun-filled marriage in which we share the same interests, talk for hours each night, ride together almost daily, have a large circle of steadfast friends and live comfortably. How could I have blown it so bad? I could have spent my life more like you - regarded by everyone here as a lonely, bitter Internet Kook, no friends, no respect, flinging poop to get attention. You are the model of successful living! How I wish I had lived my life as you. But, someday, when you are lowered into your grave with few in attendence and few who really care, or if you come down with a terminal disease and sit alone and afraid in your hospital bed, watching others recieve comforting visits from loved ones while, in your case, beneficiaries wait to sell off and squander your belongings, (or steal it when you become old and infirm)... then you will realize how well your life was spent, preoccupied with bitterness, hate, anger and discord. Now there's the final laugh, huh? > You tried to sell blocks of wood with a pipe stuck in one end on >ebay. You called them "motorcycle lifts". BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Does it echo emptily as you laugh alone in your room? Try opening the window. You never know - someone walking by might stop and you'll be able to share with him this wonderful highlight of your day. -- Home page: http://xidos.ca
From: Road Glidin' Don on 1 Mar 2007 22:50
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:16:08 -0500, Henry <9-11(a)insidejob.guv> wrote: <snip> Well, that was real nice. Henry, there's no doubt I levelled some pretty hard criticism at you, but I don't think I've gone way out of bounds. I'm not trying to create or perpetuate shame on your girlfriend or family members. No matter what I think of what you, they don't deserve that. I have absolutely no expectation of appealing to your conscience, but I will just say this, since it may at least appeal to your self interest: I think you'd agree that you have a lot of enemies; people who would really like to see you shut down and off usenet for good. By trying to get to me by the means you just used, you could be giving license to one of them who dislikes you a great deal and feels any tactic they can use against you is warranted - especially when you appear to not mind doing the same, when it comes to someone else. With a little photo-editing, gathering some personal information and what-not, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some way to come up with something that would greatly disturb and embarass your family or loved ones, along with threats to go further with it. In their effort to make you go away for good, they could use it against you everytime you posted, for years and years. Not trying to give anyone any ideas, Henry. It's just something for you to consider. On usenet you really can't control what other people do and you can't rule out anything when it comes to revenge - even if it means using people close to you. I've already discovered that, much to my own hurt. So, before you get too carried away with using it to your advantage, I suggest you be mindful that you may be providing an excuse to others, looking for a way to get to you too. -- Home page: http://xidos.ca |