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From: Twibil on 14 May 2010 01:35 On May 13, 8:04 pm, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I don't know what the right answer is. We already do a good job in police > officer selection and training. The prima facie evidence says that we do no such thing: not while we still have cops shooting innocent, non-threatening, and unarmed citizens.
From: Twibil on 14 May 2010 01:44 On May 13, 8:49 pm, "Andrew" <yo...(a)no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > That cop deserves to go to prison for attempted murder. Amen. This sort of thing adds miles to the currently widening gap of distrust between citizens and their government. When a cop can simply kill someone for no reason -and suffer no consequences- people start to believe that they're better off without cops.
From: saddlebag on 14 May 2010 06:57 On May 13, 11:04 pm, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "BryanUT" <nestl...(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:e95cd73b-b0db-435d-84bd-eddedb4a33f9(a)k25g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > >http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7433661 > > Disturbing but not necessarily criminal. > > The officer was already in adrenaline mode because of (a) the motorcycles > peeled out, seemingly in an attempt to elude/flee, If them accelerating from a stop like a couple silly buddies on Harleys often do, he had no business being by himself. (b) one motorcyclist lost control and skipped a curb, also reinforcing in the officer's mind that there was some attempt to flee Funny, it reinforced in my mind that the Harley guy was woefully inexperienced and freaked out when the cop lit him up. > (c) the motorcyclist who was shot had a > concealed right hand and began to turn and bring his arm back. The officer could have simply issued a command to turn around and put his hands on the bars. Shooting that guy may not have been with malice, but if that officer is that trigger happy, he needs to find a new vocation.
From: saddlebag on 14 May 2010 07:02 On May 14, 1:29 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On May 13, 10:08 am, BryanUT <nestl...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7433661 > > I've seen stickup men that I'd feel more comfortable > around than that cop. > > Here's another video of one of Oakland's finest > protecting himself from a vicious deer that he > felt was threatening him by trying to hide in a > back yard. > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=7421712 That cop is a real brave guy ain't he?
From: Datesfat Chicks on 14 May 2010 10:11
"saddlebag" <saddlebag(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:9aa20fce-8ef1-41c2-8c93-6813d485398d(a)k29g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > >> (c) the motorcyclist who was shot had a >> concealed right hand and began to turn and bring his arm back. > >The officer could have simply issued a command to turn around and put >his hands on the bars. Shooting that guy may not have been with >malice, but if that officer is that trigger happy, he needs to find a >new vocation. Thanks for the rational response. What I was trying to say is that everyone is strung together differently neurologically. Not everyone reacts the same way under pressure. In selection of police officers, they try to weed out those who have the wrong characteristics. There is a standard personality test, and certain types of scores lead to a much higher probability of serious trouble on the job. They try to avoid those ... What I think happened in this case is that the officer saw exactly what he expected to see. From the account of the Vincennes incident: <BEGIN> When questioned in a 2000 BBC documentary, the US government stated in a written answer that they believed the incident may have been caused by a simultaneous psychological condition amongst the 18 bridge crew of the Vincennes called 'scenario fulfillment', which is said to occur when persons are under pressure. In such a situation, the men will carry out a training scenario, believing it to be reality while ignoring sensory information that contradicts the scenario. In the case of this incident, the scenario was an attack by a lone military aircraft.[17] <END> This happens. Once certain triggers are met, people see what they expect to see (not what actually happens). I don't think a charge of attempted murder would be warranted without more information. More like "unsuitable for the job" (which is what you said). Datesfat. |