From: Fraser Johnston on

"Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
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> Toosmoky wrote:
>> CrazyCam wrote:
>>
>>> That's what I thought too, but, Roger, the guy who told me this, knows
>>> Wayne (Mr.TuneBoy) and Roger was one of the first dyno operators to use
>>> TuneBoy, with Wayne standing beside him, showing him how to work it, so....
>>
>> Urban Legend rather than Urban Myth then... ; )
>>
>>> Yup. $200 seems to be the going price for a key, which is coded to the ECU
>>> identity, thus one key works for one ECU, on several copies of TuneBoy.
>>>
>>> Cable and software, IIRC was another $200.
>>
>> Just checked the site. I thought it was $100 for the cable, $400 for the
>> licence key/unlock code. Software free. It's been a while... It is $199 for
>> the key. Great! $200 less than I thought... : )
>>
>> > N.B. the USB cable I have is the proper one for Triumphs, it may,
>> > or may not work for other makes of bikes.
>>
>> Tuneboy.com.au sell adaptors for other makes for $49 each.
>
> When I had the Buell, there was a bloke making USB adapters to fit the
> service plug for $50 (easy to make cable's but more trouble than it's worth
> hard to get the right plug because there only seemed to be one supplier in
> the world selling them retail online)
>
> There was some software which was an ongoing collaborative effort between
> some of the more skilled programmers among the worldwide Buell community
> which was a free download.
>
> I never bothered to do any tuning with it, but as I learned after a short
> time as an owner, any time there is any sort of issue with the way the bike
> is running, the first thing to do was reset the TPS. 2 min job with the
> cable and software and seemed to be the resolution of most issues.
>

Why did you ditch the Buell for the Vee? Mechanical issues? I love my Vee
(which is going to a happy new owner on Saturday) but they really need a beef
up in the brake department.

Fraser



From: Nev.. on
Fraser Johnston wrote:
> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:rcWdnb8QYYLcU0vXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>> Toosmoky wrote:
>>> CrazyCam wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's what I thought too, but, Roger, the guy who told me this, knows
>>>> Wayne (Mr.TuneBoy) and Roger was one of the first dyno operators to use
>>>> TuneBoy, with Wayne standing beside him, showing him how to work it, so....
>>> Urban Legend rather than Urban Myth then... ; )
>>>
>>>> Yup. $200 seems to be the going price for a key, which is coded to the ECU
>>>> identity, thus one key works for one ECU, on several copies of TuneBoy.
>>>>
>>>> Cable and software, IIRC was another $200.
>>> Just checked the site. I thought it was $100 for the cable, $400 for the
>>> licence key/unlock code. Software free. It's been a while... It is $199 for
>>> the key. Great! $200 less than I thought... : )
>>>
>>> > N.B. the USB cable I have is the proper one for Triumphs, it may,
>>> > or may not work for other makes of bikes.
>>>
>>> Tuneboy.com.au sell adaptors for other makes for $49 each.
>> When I had the Buell, there was a bloke making USB adapters to fit the
>> service plug for $50 (easy to make cable's but more trouble than it's worth
>> hard to get the right plug because there only seemed to be one supplier in
>> the world selling them retail online)
>>
>> There was some software which was an ongoing collaborative effort between
>> some of the more skilled programmers among the worldwide Buell community
>> which was a free download.
>>
>> I never bothered to do any tuning with it, but as I learned after a short
>> time as an owner, any time there is any sort of issue with the way the bike
>> is running, the first thing to do was reset the TPS. 2 min job with the
>> cable and software and seemed to be the resolution of most issues.
>>
>
> Why did you ditch the Buell for the Vee? Mechanical issues? I love my Vee
> (which is going to a happy new owner on Saturday) but they really need a beef
> up in the brake department.

Lacked choice in tyres. Reliability issues. Interesting bike, but
struggles to match up against anything out of Japan.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
From: Fraser Johnston on

"Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
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> Fraser Johnston wrote:
>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcWdnb8QYYLcU0vXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>>> Toosmoky wrote:
>>>> CrazyCam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's what I thought too, but, Roger, the guy who told me this, knows
>>>>> Wayne (Mr.TuneBoy) and Roger was one of the first dyno operators to use
>>>>> TuneBoy, with Wayne standing beside him, showing him how to work it,
>>>>> so....
>>>> Urban Legend rather than Urban Myth then... ; )
>>>>
>>>>> Yup. $200 seems to be the going price for a key, which is coded to the
>>>>> ECU identity, thus one key works for one ECU, on several copies of
>>>>> TuneBoy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cable and software, IIRC was another $200.
>>>> Just checked the site. I thought it was $100 for the cable, $400 for the
>>>> licence key/unlock code. Software free. It's been a while... It is $199
>>>> for the key. Great! $200 less than I thought... : )
>>>>
>>>> > N.B. the USB cable I have is the proper one for Triumphs, it may,
>>>> > or may not work for other makes of bikes.
>>>>
>>>> Tuneboy.com.au sell adaptors for other makes for $49 each.
>>> When I had the Buell, there was a bloke making USB adapters to fit the
>>> service plug for $50 (easy to make cable's but more trouble than it's worth
>>> hard to get the right plug because there only seemed to be one supplier in
>>> the world selling them retail online)
>>>
>>> There was some software which was an ongoing collaborative effort between
>>> some of the more skilled programmers among the worldwide Buell community
>>> which was a free download.
>>>
>>> I never bothered to do any tuning with it, but as I learned after a short
>>> time as an owner, any time there is any sort of issue with the way the bike
>>> is running, the first thing to do was reset the TPS. 2 min job with the
>>> cable and software and seemed to be the resolution of most issues.
>>>
>>
>> Why did you ditch the Buell for the Vee? Mechanical issues? I love my Vee
>> (which is going to a happy new owner on Saturday) but they really need a
>> beef up in the brake department.
>
> Lacked choice in tyres. Reliability issues. Interesting bike, but struggles
> to match up against anything out of Japan.

Cool. I like their streetfighter looking things but the air compressor engines
really put me off. Jap is hard to go by for decent power and reliability for
not much money.

Fraser



From: Bill_h on
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:20:49 +1100, CrazyCam wrote:

> Bill_h wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Doug, a question. IIRC you're using tuneboy on the trumpy, any good?
>
> Hi Bill, forgive me diving in, but I use TuneBoy on my Street Triple, so
> I thought I'd throw in my two cents worth.
>
> It's a good bit of programming, but it has it's little quirks.
>
> If you "fiddle" with bikes, then it is useful, but can, at times, be
> frustrating.
>
> So far, in less than two years of owning the Striple, I have had a
> couple of dyno sessions, to adjust the fuel mapping.
>
> The first session was to adjust the TOR mapping, which I had loaded to
> the ECU using TuneBoy, and the dyno operator, who knew about TuneBoy,
> used it to adjust the fuelling. At that point, I had made no alterations
> to the standard WRT exhaust, or anything else relating to the engine.
>
> The second session on the dyno was yesterday, to re-adjust the mapping
> to suit a modified exhaust system.
>
> Other than those sessions, I have downloaded mapping twice myself, both
> times, adjusting the constant used for speed calculations, so that I
> have, or rather, had an accurate speedo. The constant got blown away
> yesterday, because of the quirkiness of TuneBoy.
>
> As far as I can figure out, once TuneBoy is safely installed on your
> laptop, you can start it up by the normal double click on desktop icon,
> but, if you happen to select a mapping file, and click on that, TuneBoy
> takes it to be a desire to install, or re-install TuneBoy. :-|
>
> Once you start a re-install, you are doomed to do a full "remove", clean
> up of registry, then fresh install.
>
> Support is pretty much non-existent from TuneBoy, he rarely answers
> e-mails or phone calls, but there are various experts on Triumph (and
> other) fora who can usually help out.
>
> One interesting thing that the dyno gentleman mentioned to me,
> yesterday, was that it seems Triumph are sufficiently pissed off about
> TuneBoy that they are laying traps within the ECU to make TuneBoy's
> reloading of programming harder. If one of these traps are tripped, the
> bike just won't start, or do anything.
>
> Don't know, but assume, this may only affect newer models.
>
> Some of the usefulness of TuneBoy is related to the model of bike
> involved, some models have more limitations coded into the ECU than
> others..... Rocket III being the classic, that I know of.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> regards,
> CrazyCam

Thanks for that. Mine is a 2001 Sprint so it won't be a problem.

Bill
From: atec 7 7 "atec on
Fraser Johnston wrote:
> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:Rd2dnV263LgYRUvXnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>> Fraser Johnston wrote:
>>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcWdnb8QYYLcU0vXnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>>>> Toosmoky wrote:
>>>>> CrazyCam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I thought too, but, Roger, the guy who told me this, knows
>>>>>> Wayne (Mr.TuneBoy) and Roger was one of the first dyno operators to use
>>>>>> TuneBoy, with Wayne standing beside him, showing him how to work it,
>>>>>> so....
>>>>> Urban Legend rather than Urban Myth then... ; )
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup. $200 seems to be the going price for a key, which is coded to the
>>>>>> ECU identity, thus one key works for one ECU, on several copies of
>>>>>> TuneBoy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cable and software, IIRC was another $200.
>>>>> Just checked the site. I thought it was $100 for the cable, $400 for the
>>>>> licence key/unlock code. Software free. It's been a while... It is $199
>>>>> for the key. Great! $200 less than I thought... : )
>>>>>
>>>>> > N.B. the USB cable I have is the proper one for Triumphs, it may,
>>>>> > or may not work for other makes of bikes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuneboy.com.au sell adaptors for other makes for $49 each.
>>>> When I had the Buell, there was a bloke making USB adapters to fit the
>>>> service plug for $50 (easy to make cable's but more trouble than it's worth
>>>> hard to get the right plug because there only seemed to be one supplier in
>>>> the world selling them retail online)
>>>>
>>>> There was some software which was an ongoing collaborative effort between
>>>> some of the more skilled programmers among the worldwide Buell community
>>>> which was a free download.
>>>>
>>>> I never bothered to do any tuning with it, but as I learned after a short
>>>> time as an owner, any time there is any sort of issue with the way the bike
>>>> is running, the first thing to do was reset the TPS. 2 min job with the
>>>> cable and software and seemed to be the resolution of most issues.
>>>>
>>> Why did you ditch the Buell for the Vee? Mechanical issues? I love my Vee
>>> (which is going to a happy new owner on Saturday) but they really need a
>>> beef up in the brake department.
>> Lacked choice in tyres. Reliability issues. Interesting bike, but struggles
>> to match up against anything out of Japan.
>
> Cool. I like their streetfighter looking things but the air compressor engines
> really put me off. Jap is hard to go by for decent power and reliability for
> not much money.
>
> Fraser
>
>
>
You should ride one pistons cams and pipes makes a new ride and they do
handle quite well nothing soft and floppy in the frame these days