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From: Nev.. on 30 Oct 2009 06:23 G-S wrote: > Lars Chance wrote: >> Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>> In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:11:50 +1100 >>> G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>>> Lars Chance wrote: >>>>> I can't find a LeMans 1200 (do they even exist?) but the 1200 Griso >>>>> (with the 4V head) >>>>> http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/09_hd_guzzi.jpg >>>>> >>>>> leads the 1200 Bandit until about 3700 then falls into a rather large >>>>> hole just as the Bandit starts coming on strong >>>>> http://www.factorypro.com/images/dyno_chart_s7410.jpg >>>> >>>> Well I currently ride and own a 1200 Moto Guzzi and I've owned 3 >>>> separate Suzuki Bandit 1200's (although at the moment I have a >>>> Suzuki 1100). >>>> >>>> Believe me, the Bandit DOES have more torque down low and will pull >>>> away from the guzzi at any speed you care to name. >>>> >>>> But the Guzzi FEELS much nicer :) >>> >>> And looks nicer too! >>> >>> I also note that pretty well everyone who rides the new 4V Guzzis >>> says they lack down low. >>> >> I don't know anything about them and I've never ridden one so I've >> only got opinions and graphs to assess it by. >> I'll take graphs thanks Eddie. >> > > Why would you believe graphs over someones tested experience when it's > already been explained that graphs from different dyno's can't be > directly compared because dynos aren't calibrated? probably because nothing is less reliable than the subjective opinion of a person. I offer aus Nev.. '08 DL1000K8
From: Nev.. on 30 Oct 2009 06:24 Nev.. wrote: > G-S wrote: >> Lars Chance wrote: >>> Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>>> In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:11:50 +1100 >>>> G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>>>> Lars Chance wrote: >>>>>> I can't find a LeMans 1200 (do they even exist?) but the 1200 Griso >>>>>> (with the 4V head) >>>>>> http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/09_hd_guzzi.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> leads the 1200 Bandit until about 3700 then falls into a rather large >>>>>> hole just as the Bandit starts coming on strong >>>>>> http://www.factorypro.com/images/dyno_chart_s7410.jpg >>>>> >>>>> Well I currently ride and own a 1200 Moto Guzzi and I've owned 3 >>>>> separate Suzuki Bandit 1200's (although at the moment I have a >>>>> Suzuki 1100). >>>>> >>>>> Believe me, the Bandit DOES have more torque down low and will pull >>>>> away from the guzzi at any speed you care to name. >>>>> >>>>> But the Guzzi FEELS much nicer :) >>>> >>>> And looks nicer too! >>>> >>>> I also note that pretty well everyone who rides the new 4V Guzzis >>>> says they lack down low. >>>> >>> I don't know anything about them and I've never ridden one so I've >>> only got opinions and graphs to assess it by. >>> I'll take graphs thanks Eddie. >>> >> >> Why would you believe graphs over someones tested experience when it's >> already been explained that graphs from different dyno's can't be >> directly compared because dynos aren't calibrated? > > probably because nothing is less reliable than the subjective opinion of > a person. I offer aus.moto as evidence and wish my computer would stop sending before i've finished typing. Nev.. '08 DL1000K8
From: G-S on 30 Oct 2009 07:18
Nev.. wrote: > G-S wrote: >> Lars Chance wrote: >>> Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>>> In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:11:50 +1100 >>>> G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>>>> Lars Chance wrote: >>>>>> I can't find a LeMans 1200 (do they even exist?) but the 1200 Griso >>>>>> (with the 4V head) >>>>>> http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/09_hd_guzzi.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> leads the 1200 Bandit until about 3700 then falls into a rather large >>>>>> hole just as the Bandit starts coming on strong >>>>>> http://www.factorypro.com/images/dyno_chart_s7410.jpg >>>>> >>>>> Well I currently ride and own a 1200 Moto Guzzi and I've owned 3 >>>>> separate Suzuki Bandit 1200's (although at the moment I have a >>>>> Suzuki 1100). >>>>> >>>>> Believe me, the Bandit DOES have more torque down low and will pull >>>>> away from the guzzi at any speed you care to name. >>>>> >>>>> But the Guzzi FEELS much nicer :) >>>> >>>> And looks nicer too! >>>> >>>> I also note that pretty well everyone who rides the new 4V Guzzis >>>> says they lack down low. >>>> >>> I don't know anything about them and I've never ridden one so I've >>> only got opinions and graphs to assess it by. >>> I'll take graphs thanks Eddie. >>> >> >> Why would you believe graphs over someones tested experience when it's >> already been explained that graphs from different dyno's can't be >> directly compared because dynos aren't calibrated? > > probably because nothing is less reliable than the subjective opinion of > a person. I offer aus > Nothing is less reliable than the subjective opinions of certain persons, I'm not one of those persons :) G-S |