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From: CrazyCam on 14 May 2010 19:16 BT Humble wrote: > CrazyCam wrote: >> As for the "muddy watery stuff", some of us like proper beer and stout. > > So, what did you think of my Dark Ale? Dunno. I never got round to it, because the ginger beer was so bloody good! regards, CrazyCam
From: Peter on 14 May 2010 20:45 >> >> If you can go straight then braking is an option. > > It is, but, if you are heading into a patch of deep sand or bulldust, > you are then faced with how to get back out. > Even more reason not to stop/brake. >> It is unwise to brake with the front if there is little to no >> traction and you are turning. > > Absolutely correct! > >>> For the situation that started this, that wasn't actually an valid >>> option for betty, or most of the rest of us, on road bikes, riding >>> on a gravel road. >> >> >> Yes it was....... depending on speed, fatigue confidence, soup >> balance........ > > Hang on here Peter. > > Sorry, but, some things I remember, like the road to Funkytown, and > others I am a bit hazy about, like the names of everyone who was > there. > > Were you there? Maybe you would have remembered if you had a drink of my award quality coffee. > > The big, deep gravel patches were, basically, off line. > > The line was, admittedly, at times, very rutted and uncomfortable, but > it wasn't actually all that loose with gravel. > Betty's Bend had deep gravel on the outside of a left hand turn and deep corrugations on the inside. I found Betty somewhere in the middle to outside. Relevance? >> You have to ride for the conditions and the motorcycle and also how >> you are feeling........ >> Your point? > > You just managed to explain it.... just add in "and to your level of > experience". > I think this thread has proven experiance is not that relevant. Betty and I have been riding the same amount of time give or take a few weeks. Last year we had around the same amount of accidents. I bounce better! Betty has probally done more K's touring than me. I am guessign I have done more dirt than her. Commute I have no idea. You have repectfully more life experiance than me and I am guessing more K's on two wheels. > >> But to suggest braking on the front on dirt while cornering is wrong. > > <looks round...> Did I say that? No. You didn't.... > >> Also the technique described by Gerry is not riding but walking a >> motorcycle. > > Well, getting back to your statement of what I was getting at..... > if it works, how bad can it be? > It is all good until it goes bad. >> ------------------------------ >> When in doubt throttle out describes to me.... >> >> Throttle can give more traction. >> Throttle can give more control. >> Throttle is fun. >> ***On the way in and through leave enough room for throttle out.*** >> ------------------------------ > > > Oh, right...good.... > > What is the quote about something to do with "for ever complex problem > there is a nice simple answer, which is almost inevitably wrong" ? > > and teaching new tricks...... > > I suppose, with knowledge like that, you work for the RTA. > > Ok, now I know you are joking. That is the same as saying I work for Telstra. :-P
From: BT Humble on 14 May 2010 21:25 Nev.. wrote: > I read what you wrote. You are scared of riding on gravel and you > employ a riding style which is far from ideal for the conditions but is > the best you can manage given your lack of skill or confidence. > Flapping your feet around is not good advice to give any rider, for any > conditions. Keep your feet on the pegs and your hands on the bars, eyes > forward, chin up, throttle open. It's not a dakar style, it's what > riding instructors teach novice riders on the first day of rider training. I have personally employed the "flapping your feet around" riding style once, over the 2 days that it took me to ride the Plenty Highway on a well-laden GPX250. I only did the "outrigger stance" thing when I was actually riding through bulldust beds, in first gear, at walking pace, though. BTH -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: PostmanPat on 14 May 2010 21:47 On May 12, 6:50 pm, YnRAaHVtYmxldG93bi5vcmc=(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (BT Humble) wrote: > PostmanPat wrote: > > Heheheh... > > *Attempts to run away,hampered by his more-recently-acquired > > swollen,multicoloured foot* > > I certainly can't recommend slamming a Transalpsworth of weight on it. > > My Wedgetail Outriders should be arriving shortly... > > > Postman Pat the Crippled (my levers are fine though) > > TransTankSlap? > > BTH > > -- > Posted atwww.usenet.com.au Nope. Slope,dwarf,tall bike. A lot of the damage was from straining to hold the bike upright with just my toes,then it was all downhill--literally...(on my foot) _Then_ the woman behind drove her 4WD into the bike--luckily she stopped when a chain adjuster punched a hole through her bumper--no more damage to the TA apart from the drop. I don't _think_ she helped nudge me over first,but who knows? Haven't enjoyed kickstarting the CT hundreds of times each day at work and putting it onto the centrestand--in hindsight,i should've taken four days off instead (then I could've gone for a ride...) Incompetent Shortarse Pat
From: bikerbetty on 14 May 2010 22:34
"PostmanPat" <postman64pat(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:003e856f-e395-4d91-810e-6c0f5a7a3470(a)v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com... On May 12, 6:50 pm, YnRAaHVtYmxldG93bi5vcmc=(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (BT Humble) wrote: > PostmanPat wrote: > > Heheheh... > > *Attempts to run away,hampered by his more-recently-acquired > > swollen,multicoloured foot* > > I certainly can't recommend slamming a Transalpsworth of weight on it. > > My Wedgetail Outriders should be arriving shortly... > > > Postman Pat the Crippled (my levers are fine though) > > TransTankSlap? > > BTH > > -- > Posted atwww.usenet.com.au Nope. Slope,dwarf,tall bike. A lot of the damage was from straining to hold the bike upright with just my toes,then it was all downhill--literally...(on my foot) _Then_ the woman behind drove her 4WD into the bike--luckily she stopped when a chain adjuster punched a hole through her bumper--no more damage to the TA apart from the drop. I don't _think_ she helped nudge me over first,but who knows? Haven't enjoyed kickstarting the CT hundreds of times each day at work and putting it onto the centrestand--in hindsight,i should've taken four days off instead (then I could've gone for a ride...) Incompetent Shortarse Pat Awwww, poor Pat - I feel your pain. Oh, actually, that's MY pain.... yours is over there behind the couch. betty |