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From: Marty H on 15 May 2010 10:41 On May 15, 6:38 pm, YnRAaHVtYmxldG93bi5vcmc=(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (BT Humble) wrote: > BT Humble wrote: > > BTH > [1]http://fat.ly/r9fa4 oh...now that is funny mh
From: Knobdoodle on 15 May 2010 11:28 "Marty H" <hytram(a)gmail.com> wroteMarty H wrote: > bike that is leaning one way by learning to the other.. > but it doesnt, because your body weight couter reacting the bike... > ....learn to the outside of the turn ... > it works, I now about at least 30% more confident ... > ... on a dry road you do not usually out perform the the grip level.. > depends on speed, under 20kmh yes, over 20kmh the no, ... > I will bet you I could ride your bike, or any bike better, with my > technique on the dirt that riding the same bike on the dirt as you > would ride it on the tar. > I will bet you've found the keys to the liquour-cabinet. -- Clem (http://xkcd.com/621/)
From: Kevin Gleeson on 15 May 2010 19:43 On Sat, 15 May 2010 01:25:16 +0000 (UTC), YnRAaHVtYmxldG93bi5vcmc=(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (BT Humble) wrote: >Nev.. wrote: >> I read what you wrote. You are scared of riding on gravel and you >> employ a riding style which is far from ideal for the conditions but is >> the best you can manage given your lack of skill or confidence. >> Flapping your feet around is not good advice to give any rider, for any >> conditions. Keep your feet on the pegs and your hands on the bars, eyes >> forward, chin up, throttle open. It's not a dakar style, it's what >> riding instructors teach novice riders on the first day of rider training. > >I have personally employed the "flapping your feet around" riding style >once, over the 2 days that it took me to ride the Plenty Highway on a >well-laden GPX250. > >I only did the "outrigger stance" thing when I was actually riding through >bulldust beds, in first gear, at walking pace, though. > > >BTH I recall riding across to Adelaide in 1986. Via the main highway rather than the GOR. It had pissed down with rain at the same time as they had decided to rip up parts of the highway to rebuild it. About 10km of it past Horsham. We had the VF1000R so loaded up with gear and Kerry on the back that the front wheel would pop into the air at the slightest invite. It had pissed down with rain and this stretch of road was turned into a mud sludge. Cars were sliding around and creating wheel ruts into what was basically 3-4 inches deep of mud. I'm still amazed I got through it, especially two up and loaded. But I was basically kicking the ground constantly. Even if it was soft and squishy, it had enough force to stop us going over. Can't say it was a fun bit of my honeymoon holiday ride to the F1GP. Kev
From: Marty H on 15 May 2010 19:44 On May 16, 1:28 am, "Knobdoodle" <knobdoo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Marty H" <hyt...(a)gmail.com> wroteMarty H wrote: > > > bike that is leaning one way by learning to the other.. > > but it doesnt, because your body weight couter reacting the bike... > > ....learn to the outside of the turn ... > > it works, I now about at least 30% more confident ... > > ... on a dry road you do not usually out perform the the grip level.. > > depends on speed, under 20kmh yes, over 20kmh the no, ... > > I will bet you I could ride your bike, or any bike better, with my > > technique on the dirt that riding the same bike on the dirt as you > > would ride it on the tar. > > I will bet you've found the keys to the liquour-cabinet. I stand by the comments... I think thats a little pot/black isnt Clem? mh
From: Zebee Johnstone on 15 May 2010 19:58
In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 15 May 2010 23:43:42 GMT Kevin Gleeson <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > > I recall riding across to Adelaide in 1986. Via the main highway > rather than the GOR. It had pissed down with rain at the same time as > they had decided to rip up parts of the highway to rebuild it. About > 10km of it past Horsham. We had the VF1000R so loaded up with gear and > Kerry on the back that the front wheel would pop into the air at the > slightest invite. Ah the infamous Bicentennial Road Works. I first encountered them on a trip from Adelaide to Melbourne[1] on a Friday night on the GPz250. There were no warning signs, the only warning I got on a wet night was a single small yellow flashing light before I ploughed into 10km or so of slime. I kept it upright and discovered that I could keep some speed up and as long as I relaxed the rear end slithering about didn't matter too much. Somewhere in a box is a pic of the bike taken at the end of the return journey. Even after an hour of rain coming along the highway into the Adelaide hills the bike is uniform mud brown in colour with mud caked on all exposed surfaces. Some years later I got a lot more experience in mud when I lived in Lismore. The driveway to the place I lived in was long, steep, made of red mud and flanked by a row of massive pine trees. Meaning in summer it was rock hard and deeply rutted and covered in pinecones and in winter it was sludgy and slippery and rutted and covered in pinecones. Slime at slow speed I can handle. Still hate gravel though. Zebee [1] in those days, being young and stupid, I used to load the bike in the morning, ride it to work, then head off from work in Elizabeth to Melbourne on a Friday night, kipping by the side of the road somewhere between Bordertown and Ballarat, getting into Melb at o'dark 30 and kipping again on a mate's front verandah till he woke up and let me in... How I managed to avoid splatting myself on a truck I do not know. |