Valve keeper removal tool
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From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 5 Feb 2010 00:50 On Feb 4, 8:53 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 4, 8:40 pm, åºå¯º <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 4, 6:58 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > So what kind of bike and what kind of work were you doing ? > > > I am *so* not going there. > > > Any evidence that I could possibly give would be > > ...result in someone contacting Bob Nixon and finding out that you > made it up. Hi Don If this isn't a terrible imposition, what kind of motorcycle do you own and what kind of work do you do on it yourself ? If this is a private matter and you don't want to talk about it, please excuse my snooping around in your personal business. I just figured that since this was a motorcycle group, perhaps you might feel like sharing. If you want to take the 5th, we'll all understand. I do so hope you won't feel like I'm picking on you by asking this question.
From: The Older Gentleman on 5 Feb 2010 02:04 Shaw <EGad(a)really?.com> wrote: > Wow, what a thread. So.... I guess it's fair to say that no one here has > used the pusher type tool???? > Yes. I have. They're incredibly simple, and as long as you get one the right size, you won't have a problem. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: 府寺 on 5 Feb 2010 07:42 On Feb 4, 9:41 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 4, 7:40 pm, åºå¯º <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I am *so* not going there. > > My bet is that you're so not going there because > you don't have anything to back up these claims > of ownership and knowledgeable expertise. Well, you're *wrong*. I'm not going there because anything I add to the thread only intensifies the *game* that Neil Murray is playing. > > If this does you an injustice so be it. With that kind of attitude, how can you demand social justice for the starving pygmies in New Guinea, who don't even own a jockstrap, let alone a motorcycle? > My experience > says that people who repeatedly dodge answering > simple questions are embarrassed by the truth. Well, your experience fails you in this case. I'm not talking about my own motorcycles because anything I add to the thread only intensifies the *game* that Neil Murray is playing. > I own an '88 BMW R100GS that I bought 10 years > ago and have put roughly 100,000 miles on. I'm > pretty comfortable tearing it down and reassembling > it, but have farmed out the head work and transmission > rebuild to a friend who has a pretty good machine > shop and does this kind of work in his garage. It sounds like you really don't have as much confidence in your ability to do mechanical work as I have...
From: TOG on 5 Feb 2010 08:38 On 5 Feb, 12:32, åºå¯º <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: <Snip> > Are you *serious*????? > > Are you talking about a c-clamp type valve spring compressor like the > one in the top half of the picture here? > > http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/search/search.jsp?searchString=H28-706&.... > > The cylindrical black object in the lower half of the picture is what > actually contacts the spring retainer, and you can use a deep well > socket instead, so why spend $70 on something like that? Quite. When you can buy a decent compressor for $25 or less[1], why indeed? > > Some Japanese tool kits have a cheap sheetmetal spark plug wrench that > can be used as a pusher if you stick a phillips screwdriver thru a > hole in the end. > Use the correct tool. It's easier and safer, always. Once you've compressed the springs, your hands are free, and you can even put down the entire tool and head without worrying. If you want to risk skinned knuckles by pressing down on the end of a tough spring set, feel free. The great advantage of theproper tool is that it allows you to release the pressure on the spring *gradually*, so no chance of suddenly finding you didn't get the collets (no idea of the US terminology) in place properly and seffering a 'pingfuckit' moment. Now, would you like to explain to us all why you think modern engines have weak valve springs, since this seems core to your whinging....? You've dodged the issue time and again, and if you have a technical explanation, it really ought to be aired. [1] From memory, mine was less than £5, albeit three decades ago.
From: TOG on 5 Feb 2010 10:49
On 5 Feb, 15:10, åºå¯º <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Now, would you like to explain to us all why you think modern engines > > have weak valve springs, since this seems core to your whinging....? > > You've dodged the issue time and again, and if you have a technical > > explanation, it really ought to be aired. > > I have no intention of educating your assholiness about valve spring > rates, the inertia of valves, and spring frequecy. No, really, really, I'd like to know. You see, as rev limits rise, you have to have stronger springs to haul the valves back before they collide with the pistons. Lighter valves help, too, of course. And rev limits are now, typically, 30-40% higher than they were.... oh, maybe 20 years ago. And you're saying that the valve springs have got *weaker*. I find this interesting, and would really like to know how this is done. I mean, you mention inertia: surely *more* force is required to overcome inertia at higher revs than at lower, so I'd be fascinated to hear you explain the physics of this. I can't be the only one eager to learn. |