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From: alx on 25 Feb 2010 17:30
Scenario:
Buying VIC-plated bike to bring back to NSW (not nec to ride it back).
Bike has 9 months rego, no roadworthy issues.

OK this has been covered sparsely before in threads but general
consensus of "just ride it around on the original plates for a while
then swap to NSW" is not strictly legal..the garaged address should be
consistent with the State of registration.

Various options
For anyone stumbling on this thread..one important stuff-around point
found in researching... with RTA (NSW) is to GET A SEPARATE SIGNED
bill of sale/receipt from the seller confirming transfer of ownership
plus copy of sellers licence. Rego papers may not be sufficient.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/getnewrego/interstatevehicles.html

Vicroads and RTA websites provide info re: refund for cancelling rego
(VIc) and stamp duty (4% Vic, 3% NSW) plus general process for
transfer to NSW (blue slip plus possible extra fee for vehicle
identification "yes sir it's a bike..that'll be $$$ "


Options:
1) Cancel Vic rego, get new rego in NSW.
Get pro-rated refund (less 10%) of rego. (refund goes to listed (Vic)
owner, disregard issue of getting refund from listed owner)
new rego in NSW is 3% stamp duty

2)
-a- Transfer rego in Vic to a nominated legit Vic address (but NSW
licensed owner)

issues: (VIC) stamp duty 4% plus some minor transfer fees

-b- at some stage transfer rego to NSW (no stamp duty as a
transfer)..blueslip etc required


3)
-a- Buy bike in Vic, bring to NSW with Vic plates and all approp.
documentation but don't actually complete the transfer with Vicroads.
(within 14 days). Attend RTA. Pay NSW stamp duty as vicroads rego was
not transferred.
-b- get Vicroads refund from seller (again, disregard complications
with this) as seller is still the "listed" owner with Vicroads and
only one entitled to refund.

(3) seems the straightforward/obvious option but interested in others
firsthand experiences with interstate purchases.







From: George W Frost on 25 Feb 2010 20:48

"alx" <alxr101(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:97dc628e-9e9a-450a-95e9-b3a1f468355a(a)k6g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Scenario:
> Buying VIC-plated bike to bring back to NSW (not nec to ride it back).
> Bike has 9 months rego, no roadworthy issues.
>
> OK this has been covered sparsely before in threads but general
> consensus of "just ride it around on the original plates for a while
> then swap to NSW" is not strictly legal..the garaged address should be
> consistent with the State of registration.
>
> Various options
> For anyone stumbling on this thread..one important stuff-around point
> found in researching... with RTA (NSW) is to GET A SEPARATE SIGNED
> bill of sale/receipt from the seller confirming transfer of ownership
> plus copy of sellers licence. Rego papers may not be sufficient.
>
> http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/getnewrego/interstatevehicles.html
>
> Vicroads and RTA websites provide info re: refund for cancelling rego
> (VIc) and stamp duty (4% Vic, 3% NSW) plus general process for
> transfer to NSW (blue slip plus possible extra fee for vehicle
> identification "yes sir it's a bike..that'll be $$$ "
>
>
> Options:
> 1) Cancel Vic rego, get new rego in NSW.
> Get pro-rated refund (less 10%) of rego. (refund goes to listed (Vic)
> owner, disregard issue of getting refund from listed owner)
> new rego in NSW is 3% stamp duty


Refund in Vic is only the pro rata refund on the registration only
$38, less 10%....$35. pro rata 9 months remaining
9 months would equal about $25 or so
not worth the effort, especially when you won't be getting it


> 2)
> -a- Transfer rego in Vic to a nominated legit Vic address (but NSW
> licensed owner)
>
> issues: (VIC) stamp duty 4% plus some minor transfer fees



>
> -b- at some stage transfer rego to NSW (no stamp duty as a
> transfer)..blueslip etc required
>
>
> 3)
> -a- Buy bike in Vic, bring to NSW with Vic plates and all approp.
> documentation but don't actually complete the transfer with Vicroads.
> (within 14 days). Attend RTA. Pay NSW stamp duty as vicroads rego was
> not transferred.
> -b- get Vicroads refund from seller (again, disregard complications
> with this) as seller is still the "listed" owner with Vicroads and
> only one entitled to refund.

If you complete the transfer requirements with Vicroads, then you are the
owner and then you can get the refund

but, hardly worth the trouble,


>
> (3) seems the straightforward/obvious option but interested in others
> firsthand experiences with interstate purchases.
>
>


ride it till the registration expires and get new NSW reg,
If you get pulled over and asked why,
you are in the process of moving house


From: Kevin Gleeson on 25 Feb 2010 22:32
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:48:09 GMT, "George W Frost"
<georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"alx" <alxr101(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:97dc628e-9e9a-450a-95e9-b3a1f468355a(a)k6g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> Scenario:
>> Buying VIC-plated bike to bring back to NSW (not nec to ride it back).
>> Bike has 9 months rego, no roadworthy issues.
>>
>> OK this has been covered sparsely before in threads but general
>> consensus of "just ride it around on the original plates for a while
>> then swap to NSW" is not strictly legal..the garaged address should be
>> consistent with the State of registration.
>>
>> Various options
>> For anyone stumbling on this thread..one important stuff-around point
>> found in researching... with RTA (NSW) is to GET A SEPARATE SIGNED
>> bill of sale/receipt from the seller confirming transfer of ownership
>> plus copy of sellers licence. Rego papers may not be sufficient.
>>
>> http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/getnewrego/interstatevehicles.html
>>
>> Vicroads and RTA websites provide info re: refund for cancelling rego
>> (VIc) and stamp duty (4% Vic, 3% NSW) plus general process for
>> transfer to NSW (blue slip plus possible extra fee for vehicle
>> identification "yes sir it's a bike..that'll be $$$ "
>>
>>
>> Options:
>> 1) Cancel Vic rego, get new rego in NSW.
>> Get pro-rated refund (less 10%) of rego. (refund goes to listed (Vic)
>> owner, disregard issue of getting refund from listed owner)
>> new rego in NSW is 3% stamp duty
>
>
>Refund in Vic is only the pro rata refund on the registration only
>$38, less 10%....$35. pro rata 9 months remaining
>9 months would equal about $25 or so
>not worth the effort, especially when you won't be getting it
>
>
>> 2)
>> -a- Transfer rego in Vic to a nominated legit Vic address (but NSW
>> licensed owner)
>>
>> issues: (VIC) stamp duty 4% plus some minor transfer fees
>
>
>
>>
>> -b- at some stage transfer rego to NSW (no stamp duty as a
>> transfer)..blueslip etc required
>>
>>
>> 3)
>> -a- Buy bike in Vic, bring to NSW with Vic plates and all approp.
>> documentation but don't actually complete the transfer with Vicroads.
>> (within 14 days). Attend RTA. Pay NSW stamp duty as vicroads rego was
>> not transferred.
>> -b- get Vicroads refund from seller (again, disregard complications
>> with this) as seller is still the "listed" owner with Vicroads and
>> only one entitled to refund.
>
>If you complete the transfer requirements with Vicroads, then you are the
>owner and then you can get the refund
>
>but, hardly worth the trouble,
>
>
>>
>> (3) seems the straightforward/obvious option but interested in others
>> firsthand experiences with interstate purchases.
>>
>>
>
>
>ride it till the registration expires and get new NSW reg,
>If you get pulled over and asked why,
>you are in the process of moving house

That's what I was thinking. I was on Vic reg for nearly a year when I
moved to Sydney and we kept Kerry's car in Tasmanian reg for 6 years
living on the mainland. I think they'd probably track it a bit easier
these days though.

I recall hammering it out of Nth Sydney onto the F4 freeway north of
the bridge one day. I had the bike tipped over really hard and
couldn't see anything in the mirrors and while I was still in the slip
lane I just accelerated like mad so if there was a car coming
alongside the slip lane, I figured as the bike came upright I'd be
able to see them, but be pulling ahead of them. Of course there was a
bike cop behind me when I did get up into visible mode. (Yes, I'd done
a head turn, but he must have been off to the left of me).

Pulls me over and was interested more in the VF1000R (as they were
still pretty new at the time) and wanted to talk bikes. Fine. Asked me
about the Vic rego and I said I'd just moved to Sydney and would
change it over when I found permanent residence. He didn't check it
well enough to notice that it had expired about two weeks before that.
(I was getting around to it, OK!)

So we chatted about bikes and he was bemoaning the Bimmer that he was
on. I played nice chatty person and got off with a warning. I reckon I
was pulling around 160 kph as I came onto the slip lane, but as he was
on a bike, he didn't have a gun.

So me gets off with warning for speeding on an unregistered bike in
the wrong state. I must be able to bullshit well :-)

But yeah, doubt you'd get away with it these days.

Kev
From: Zebee Johnstone on 25 Feb 2010 22:48
In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:30:36 -0800 (PST)
alx <alxr101(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Various options
> For anyone stumbling on this thread..one important stuff-around point
> found in researching... with RTA (NSW) is to GET A SEPARATE SIGNED
> bill of sale/receipt from the seller confirming transfer of ownership
> plus copy of sellers licence. Rego papers may not be sufficient.
>

Make sure it has at least the rego number, and it's a good idea to
copy the VIN too. They like to think this stops rebirthing.

When I've done it I've ended up paying stamp duty and never getting
much refund. Mainly because the biggest cost of rego is 3rd party and
refunds on that are hard to come by.

Zebee
From: DougR on 25 Feb 2010 23:18
I ended up taking option 2 when I did it. I bought the bike while
commuting to Melbourne from Sydney. I used my employees Melbourne
office as my address then rode the bike home one weekend.
The biggest delay was requesting an updated rego certificate from
Vicroads (they don't come automatically as they do in NSW) -
Blue slip, application for rego, RTA took the VIC plates and forwarded
them on and eventually a refund for the unpaid rego turned up from
Vicroads.
Doug
On Feb 26, 9:30 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Scenario:
> Buying VIC-plated bike to bring back to NSW (not nec to ride it back).
> Bike has 9 months rego, no roadworthy issues.
>
>
> 2)
> -a- Transfer rego in Vic to a nominated legit Vic address (but NSW
> licensed owner)
>
>      issues: (VIC) stamp duty 4% plus some minor transfer fees
>
> -b- at some stage transfer rego to NSW (no stamp duty as a
> transfer)..blueslip etc required
>

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