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From: spodely on 22 Jan 2008 13:25 On Jan 22, 6:49 pm, Tim H <tntharr...(a)msn.com> wrote: > What Jim said. While you can "fall off the clutch" on really slow > downhills, it hooks right back up with a very minimal throttle input > (blip). It's not nearly as scary as it might sound; it takes next to > nothing to get the clutch to reconnect with the extra Tungsten balls > (10 total), it was a little more touchy about it with the 5-ball > setup, but even with that setup and its higher clutch engagement > speeds downhills were quite easy to keep the clutch engaged for engine > braking. > You should probably come out here or go to Arkansas for a test ride to > check it out. In slippery, rocky, rooty, snotty trails, the auto > clutch 300 is like cheating (especially with a trials tire). > > Tim H > > Tim H- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Once again, I succumbed to Jim's "first hit is free" ploy. Dammit. While it was 'only' woods and whoops, I rode Jim's bike right after Christmas. In addition to the little things I need to buy for my bike, I am now planning on the auto clutch. I would like to go to Idaho this summer on my break. I would also like to have that installed before riding it again. I would also like.. Only 7 more months to plan this out... On the winter part of this thread.. I've already dealt with two snow falls and nightly temps hovering around 16 degrees. I'm surprised noone has sprayed the entire area with water and gone sledding and skiing. Wait, we have. Gotta love the desert. F'n Frozen Desert Spode
From: Tim H on 22 Jan 2008 13:36 On Jan 22, 9:17 am, "Jeff Deeney" <jeff.nospam.dee...(a)hp.com> wrote: > "Dean H." <m...(a)groove.calm> wrote in message > > news:EsidnSKEz-pdaAjanZ2dnUVZ_sCtnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > > > "Tim H" > > > Try adding more tungsten balls to the clutch. Rekluse sent my clutch > > with 5 tungsten balls, and instructions that would lead you to believe > > that you shouldn't > > use more of them, but on the recommendation of our Mr. Cook, I doubled > > that to 10 tungsten balls, and the improvement in low end hook up was > > monumental. The bike > > will still idle in gear, but as soon as you crack the throttle it > > starts hooking up. The loss of the low speed hook up was the main > > compaint I had with the Rekluse, but now I'm a happy camper. For the > > kind of riding we do, more heavy balls is definetely better. > > That's pretty much how my bike is already set up. The previous owner was an > older gentleman who told me it was set up for the lowest possible > engagement. And he may have thought he had done that. If he installed all of the tungsten balls that came with the clutch, then he would have achieved what Rekluse literature would identify as the lowest engagement point. It starts to engage just above idle that way, but the difference between the "per Rekluse" maximum balls/lowest engagement point and the way it works with 10 balls is profound. I'd strongly recommend that you check the actual number of Tungsten balls installed. More balls than Rekluse claimed gave the lowest engagement point gives you much more solid hook-up at much lower RPM, and made all the difference in the world with my low speed lugability. > When riding on ice, I want it engaged *at* idle, not just above > idle. I don't think it would be possible to engage any closer to idle and still function as an auto clutch. The Rekluse setup had some slight hook-up starting a little above idle, but didn't achieve a really useable hook-up until the revs picked up much more than I wanted them to. Now it goes from disengaged at idle to strongly hooked up about 300 RPM higher. The differece in usability of the 300 low end is amazing, and the engagement is very smooth and controlable. > Even using taller gears with more slippage didn't help. That just made it worse before I added the extra balls. > I would hit > some long grades where my speed was limited by traction. I had to keep > backing off the throttle as the rear wheel started slipping. > > Part of the problem might have also been tire selection. Despite my riding > partner having fewer chains, he had vastly bettre traction. > > The easy solution will be to ride the XR200 next time. You just don't need > a whole lot of power and suspension when riding in the snow. Don't forget to layer up under your skirt... Tim H
From: CrashTestDummy on 22 Jan 2008 15:22 On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:11:22 -0700, "Jeff Deeney" <jeff.nospam.deeney(a)hp.com> wrote: > >"HardWorkingDog" <harvey(a)mush.man> wrote in message >news:harvey-0561C7.17183121012008(a)individual.net... >> In article <uZCdnYTRCulgpQjanZ2dnUVZ_smnnZ2d(a)comcast.com>, >> "Jeff Deeney" <jld(a)nospam.com> wrote: >> >>> Here's how well tire chains work on solid ice, covered with a dusting of >>> snow. >>> >>> http://65.57.254.60/ktmtalk/photogallery/galleries/members/Ebay_Listings_037.j >>> pg > >> Meant to do what? >> >> Dull and dim-witted minds want to know. > >Ummmm, copy buffer had the wrong item in it? > >Try this... >http://crash.smugmug.com/gallery/4201585#245837089-A-LB > >-Jeff- > Okay, yeah, that makes more sense. But don't you have any good wipeout footage? Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy fjbradfordREMOVE(a)tx.rr.com
From: Jeff Deeney on 22 Jan 2008 15:31 "Tim H" <tntharrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:5e82a1eb-de42-40ee-b003-24efa2f0bf9d(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... On Jan 22, 9:17 am, "Jeff Deeney" <jeff.nospam.dee...(a)hp.com> wrote: > And he may have thought he had done that. If he installed all of the > tungsten balls that came with the clutch, then he would have achieved > what Rekluse literature would identify as the lowest engagement point. I'll check. Next on my to-do list is to open up the clutch to perform gap adjustments. Right now it seems to drag slightly at idle. I'll check the balls at the time. I seem to recall reading something about a maximum of 28 steel balls. If tungsten balls don't work, do they have depleted uranium balls available? > > The easy solution will be to ride the XR200 next time. You just don't > > need > > a whole lot of power and suspension when riding in the snow. > Don't forget to layer up under your skirt... Hey, watch it there bub! Have you ever seen Tami in a skirt? Do electric cod-piece's work for women too? Oh, wait, I'm gonna be in big trouble here... -Jeff-
From: Tim H on 22 Jan 2008 15:47
On Jan 22, 12:31 pm, "Jeff Deeney" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote: > "Tim H" <tntharr...(a)msn.com> wrote in message > > news:5e82a1eb-de42-40ee-b003-24efa2f0bf9d(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 22, 9:17 am, "Jeff Deeney" <jeff.nospam.dee...(a)hp.com> wrote: > > > And he may have thought he had done that. If he installed all of the > > tungsten balls that came with the clutch, then he would have achieved > > what Rekluse literature would identify as the lowest engagement point. > > I'll check. Next on my to-do list is to open up the clutch to perform gap > adjustments. Right now it seems to drag slightly at idle. I'll check the > balls at the time. I seem to recall reading something about a maximum of 28 > steel balls. Before I took the plunge and added tungsten, my clutch seemed to have a bit of drag at idle too. I was worried about whether or not I could make it work with the extra tungsten balls, but after adding them I had no more, and perhaps a bit less, drag at idle. A slight increase in idle speed, maybe 200 rpm, seems to have taken care of it. It seems sort of counter-intuitive, but it's working very well for me. > If tungsten balls don't work, do they have depleted uranium balls available? NOW you're talking! > > > The easy solution will be to ride the XR200 next time. You just don't > > > need > > > a whole lot of power and suspension when riding in the snow. > > Don't forget to layer up under your skirt... > > Hey, watch it there bub! Have you ever seen Tami in a skirt? Hm-m-m. I don't think so. I've seen her in some cute sun dresses though. Very feminine, and they show off her awesome collection of surgical scars to best effect. > Do electric cod-piece's work for women too? Oh, wait, I'm gonna be in big > trouble here... Sounds like a girl's best friend to me... Tim H |