From: dsc-ky on
On Jan 22, 11:30 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> CrashTestDummy wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > The kind of fog where you
> > have to slow to a crawl, but where you keep expecting some idiot to
> > come crashing into the rear of your vehicle at any time... and nowhere
> > to pull off.
>
> > And that was the only time my wife ever went skiing with me. ;-p
>
> You should be glad she let you live.
>
> I rode up to the top of Snow Summit with a couple of guys.  One claimed
> to be an expert and one had never been skiing before.  The expert was
> saying stuff like "It's easy, just watch me."  The virgin was looking
> more and more freaked out the higher we got.  I asked him if he knew how
> to snow-plow.  No.  Friend said he didn't need to know that.  I told
> Friend to shut up (among other things -- there are advantages to being a
> mom) and explained the theory of snowplowing in 50 words or less.
>
> I grabbed the guy's arm as we got off the lift and he just barely made
> it off without falling.  Fortunately there was a Patroller at the top,
> and I asked him to keep an eye on the virgin.  I have no idea what
> happened after that, but it was no longer my problem.
>
> Why do guys do that?


Um... on my virgin trip to the woods my hillclimbing buddies took me
straight to the bad stuff. I guess it's kind of like teaching someone
to swim by tossing them in the lake. Works most of the time, but
occasionally someone drowns. Oh well, they probably never would have
been much of a swimmer, skier or rider anyway. :)
From: CrashTestDummy on
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:30:10 -0800, The Real Bev
<bashley101+usenet(a)gmail.com> wrote:


>I rode up to the top of Snow Summit with a couple of guys. One claimed
>to be an expert and one had never been skiing before. The expert was
>saying stuff like "It's easy, just watch me." The virgin was looking
>more and more freaked out the higher we got. I asked him if he knew how
>to snow-plow. No. Friend said he didn't need to know that. I told
>Friend to shut up (among other things -- there are advantages to being a
>mom) and explained the theory of snowplowing in 50 words or less.
>
>I grabbed the guy's arm as we got off the lift and he just barely made
>it off without falling. Fortunately there was a Patroller at the top,
>and I asked him to keep an eye on the virgin. I have no idea what
>happened after that, but it was no longer my problem.
>
>Why do guys do that?

What? Go skiing with advanced skiers their first time out? <g>

I think, in my case, the problem was that I learned to ski when my
brother came up to visit one year when I was about 14. I had spent
about 9 years of my life in Oregon by this time, but my brother never
moved from the Dallas area. He was working for Placid Oil at the time
though and took routine trips to Colorado and New Mexico to go skiing.

Anyway, when he came to visit he'd already researched the area and
knew where the nearest ski area was, so off we went. He spent some
time teaching me to snow plow, and we made a few runs on the bunny
hill. Then we got a trail map and rode the chair lift to the summit.

This was at a little place called Anthony Lakes (eastern Oregon),
and there's a real nice stair-stepped run called Broadway that's much
longer, but not much steeper, than the bunny hill. We took that run
and I had very little trouble skiing it. A couple of wipeouts, but I
was really getting the hang of this. Which was good, because after
that run my brother retired to the lodge to drink alcohol and watch
snow bunnies the rest of the afternoon while I continued to practice
in the sunny, but freezing cold weather.

So, my first experience wasn't appreciably different than that of
my wife's co-worker, really. I guess I figured that's how everyone
learned. And to be fair, we *tried* to convince him to rent shorter
skis when we learned he had borrowed those giant ones. And the weather
really conspired against us that day. I did learn a lesson though...
from then on I found people to ski with that were around my same skill
level. I don't need to get in three dozen runs a day like some folks,
but I'm not gonna be happy with two or three runs either.

I think, if I were to teach my kids to ski, I'd have to do it over
a two or three day weekend. I could tolerate a full day or day and a
half of instruction and practice knowing that I'd have time to solo
later.



Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE(a)tx.rr.com
From: Dean H. on
"CrashTestDummy"

> I think, if I were to teach my kids to ski, I'd have to do it over
> a two or three day weekend. I could tolerate a full day or day and a
> half of instruction and practice knowing that I'd have time to solo
> later.

Get them morning lessons so you can get your fix while the instructor
teaches them by the book and the conditions haven't been beaten down.
Then cool down with the kids in the afternoon and add your wisdom to what
they learned in the morning lesson.
If they get tired early, you already got your runs in.

It's a great family sport except for the insane (last time I checked) price
of lift tickets.


From: Jeff Deeney on

"CrashTestDummy" <fjbradfordREMOVE(a)tx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:d3kcp3p09ljf9scaj3ttuj0s6tlir2jbu1(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:11:22 -0700, "Jeff Deeney"
> <jeff.nospam.deeney(a)hp.com> wrote:

>> http://crash.smugmug.com/gallery/4201585#245837089-A-LB
>>
> Okay, yeah, that makes more sense. But don't you have any good
> wipeout footage?

That was the closest I came to falling all day.

Crash, on the other hand, lives up to his name.
http://home.comcast.net/~jldeeney/pictures/snownap.jpg

He tried to pass me on the inside. Snow-snakes grabbed his front wheel (2ms
before I was gonna stuff him).

This coming weekend: the Switzerland trail. It's an old railroad bed at
8-9k' elevation, west of Boulder (Nanu-Nanu) I'm planning to ride from
home, chain up, bury the bike in deep snow, laugh and point, then find a
warm room with cold beer.

-Jeff-


From: CrashTestDummy on
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:19:45 -0700, "Jeff Deeney"
<jeff.nospam.deeney(a)hp.com> wrote:

>
>"CrashTestDummy" <fjbradfordREMOVE(a)tx.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:d3kcp3p09ljf9scaj3ttuj0s6tlir2jbu1(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:11:22 -0700, "Jeff Deeney"
>> <jeff.nospam.deeney(a)hp.com> wrote:
>
>>> http://crash.smugmug.com/gallery/4201585#245837089-A-LB
>>>
>> Okay, yeah, that makes more sense. But don't you have any good
>> wipeout footage?
>
>That was the closest I came to falling all day.

Go faster then!

>Crash, on the other hand, lives up to his name.
>http://home.comcast.net/~jldeeney/pictures/snownap.jpg

Now we're talkin'!

>He tried to pass me on the inside. Snow-snakes grabbed his front wheel (2ms
>before I was gonna stuff him).

I can't picture you stuffing anyone... intentionally.

>This coming weekend: the Switzerland trail. It's an old railroad bed at
>8-9k' elevation, west of Boulder (Nanu-Nanu) I'm planning to ride from
>home, chain up, bury the bike in deep snow, laugh and point, then find a
>warm room with cold beer.
>
>-Jeff-

Sounds sweet. Shazbot! (if you see Mindy say hi for me)


Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE(a)tx.rr.com
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