From: Peter Wyzl on
"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Peter Wyzl" <wyzelli(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip (just to keep this short)>
>
>> ROFL.
>>
>> _YOU_ made the claim that Lockyer was the greatest rugby league player of
>> all time. Now you want to change that to he is the best team player?
>>
> [puzzled face] Well it is a team sport isn't it?
> How can a player be great if he can't work-with/lift/inspire his team?!!?
> Sure he can score some points but it's the team that wins or loses games.

[even more puzzled face] Isn't scoring points how the team wins? if I had
to pick between 8 points a game and 4, for the team, I know where my vote
goes...
Are you seriously trying to sugget that AJ wasn't a good team player?
Captain of the Knights for umpteen years, captain for the Blues, captain of
the kangaroos at least once... The evidence flies in the face of your
assertions...

>> AJ has been continually referred to by many people in the footballing
>> fraternity as the best of all time, over the last 5 years. I continue to
>> support that view. His social problems do not downgrade his skills.
>>
> Many people in YOUR circle apparently!

I would be only too honoured to have The Chief, Sterlo, Fatty, Daly, Wally
and a host of such others in 'MY' circle. I only wish.

>> I am happy to give DL second, though I actually think Langer was more of
>> a game breaker than DL is.
>>
> We almost match there 'cause I rate Langer as a far better half-back than
> Johns too!
> (I doubt he's got the same individual stats though!)

Again, as good as Langer was, in rating him better than Johns, you are in a
minority. Langer has no serious goal kicking to talk of, though his passes
in front of the try line and kicks in play were magic. A bit like Joey
really, except you add, in the tackling and try scoring... plus
leadership...

P

From: Peter Wyzl on
"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Peter Wyzl" <wyzelli(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> [even more puzzled face] Isn't scoring points how the team wins? if I
>> had to pick between 8 points a game and 4, for the team, I know where my
>> vote goes...
>> Are you seriously trying to sugget that AJ wasn't a good team player?
>> Captain of the Knights for umpteen years, captain for the Blues, captain
>> of the kangaroos at least once... The evidence flies in the face of your
>> assertions...
>>
> So back to my original statement; "...he starred in, two State of Origin
> series and one finals series?..."


I think even pre school mathematicians can work out that 23 origin games is
more than 2 origin series... Going back to re-state a view that has already
been demonstrated to be flawed in premise, does nothing for your argument.

P

From: Knobdoodle on

"Peter Wyzl" <wyzelli(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> So back to my original statement; "...he starred in, two State of Origin
>> series and one finals series?..."
>
>
> I think even pre school mathematicians can work out that 23 origin games
> is more than 2 origin series... Going back to re-state a view that has
> already been demonstrated to be flawed in premise, does nothing for your
> argument.
>
[snigger] This from the bloke who used such luminaries as "Fatty" and "The
Chief" as his proof!!
--
Clem
(Besides; I said "starred in" not "also played in....")


From: Peter Wyzl on
"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Peter Wyzl" <wyzelli(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> So back to my original statement; "...he starred in, two State of Origin
>>> series and one finals series?..."
>>
>>
>> I think even pre school mathematicians can work out that 23 origin games
>> is more than 2 origin series... Going back to re-state a view that has
>> already been demonstrated to be flawed in premise, does nothing for your
>> argument.
>>
> [snigger] This from the bloke who used such luminaries as "Fatty" and "The
> Chief" as his proof!!

No doubt an armchair critic knows more than any ex State of Origin player
and successful coach....

> Clem
> (Besides; I said "starred in" not "also played in....")

Anyone who gets that many SO appearance is a star in my book, its the degree
we are debating...

Ad hominem gets you nowhere.

P


From: Toosmoky on

Can't ever remember a thread on footy in here before...

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Toosmoky
Work to ride, Ride to Work...
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