From: Kevin Gleeson on
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:09:33 GMT, "George W Frost"
<georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>news:835fm5plaa6e1b7csgmf77t8kqjdp90ub7(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:01:17 GMT, "George W Frost"
>> <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>>>news:i00fm5lp3cmg7uu67tua5giaskfmrsqan7(a)4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:43:47 GMT, "George W Frost"

Snipperoony

>>>Being a bit picky, but there isn't a direct way from the Hume to Calder
>>>Park Raceway
>>>
>>>Unless of coarse, you are coming down from Sydney
>>>
>>
>> You are being picky. The last time I went to Calder was probably 24
>> years ago. I haven't looked at a map but thought it was the same road
>> out that way. If it isn't it's one just as boring.
>
>It's my job to be picky.....
>But, it is still the same road as it was 24 years ago and doesn't go
>anywhere near the Hume Highway

Well there ya go. 24 years and too many beers had them in the same
place in my mind.

<Wanders off to Googlemaps>

Well looky there. Guess I never went north when I was living here
much. My point still stands that they are similar boring bits of
road.
From: Kevin Gleeson on
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:37:52 GMT, Kevin Gleeson
<kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:09:33 GMT, "George W Frost"
><georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:835fm5plaa6e1b7csgmf77t8kqjdp90ub7(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:01:17 GMT, "George W Frost"
>>> <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>news:i00fm5lp3cmg7uu67tua5giaskfmrsqan7(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:43:47 GMT, "George W Frost"
>
>Snipperoony
>
>>>>Being a bit picky, but there isn't a direct way from the Hume to Calder
>>>>Park Raceway
>>>>
>>>>Unless of coarse, you are coming down from Sydney
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are being picky. The last time I went to Calder was probably 24
>>> years ago. I haven't looked at a map but thought it was the same road
>>> out that way. If it isn't it's one just as boring.
>>
>>It's my job to be picky.....
>>But, it is still the same road as it was 24 years ago and doesn't go
>>anywhere near the Hume Highway
>
>Well there ya go. 24 years and too many beers had them in the same
>place in my mind.
>
><Wanders off to Googlemaps>
>
>Well looky there. Guess I never went north when I was living here
>much. My point still stands that they are similar boring bits of
>road.

Actually, looking at that map has brought back some memories. When CDs
first started coming out there was an amazing store out in Keilor that
a mate and I would ride over to regularly to stock up on. 1985 this
would have been. I recall a small shopping centre that had a record
store that had (for its day) a massive collection of CDs. Every pay
day, off to Keilor :-)
From: George W Frost on

"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
news:01cfm5l82df4e4koo107g0sfqsvuvc21im(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:37:52 GMT, Kevin Gleeson
> <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:09:33 GMT, "George W Frost"
>><georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>>>news:835fm5plaa6e1b7csgmf77t8kqjdp90ub7(a)4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:01:17 GMT, "George W Frost"
>>>> <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>news:i00fm5lp3cmg7uu67tua5giaskfmrsqan7(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:43:47 GMT, "George W Frost"
>>
>>Snipperoony
>>
>>>>>Being a bit picky, but there isn't a direct way from the Hume to
>>>>>Calder
>>>>>Park Raceway
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless of coarse, you are coming down from Sydney
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are being picky. The last time I went to Calder was probably 24
>>>> years ago. I haven't looked at a map but thought it was the same road
>>>> out that way. If it isn't it's one just as boring.
>>>
>>>It's my job to be picky.....
>>>But, it is still the same road as it was 24 years ago and doesn't go
>>>anywhere near the Hume Highway
>>
>>Well there ya go. 24 years and too many beers had them in the same
>>place in my mind.
>>
>><Wanders off to Googlemaps>
>>
>>Well looky there. Guess I never went north when I was living here
>>much. My point still stands that they are similar boring bits of
>>road.
>
> Actually, looking at that map has brought back some memories. When CDs
> first started coming out there was an amazing store out in Keilor that
> a mate and I would ride over to regularly to stock up on. 1985 this
> would have been. I recall a small shopping centre that had a record
> store that had (for its day) a massive collection of CDs. Every pay
> day, off to Keilor :-)



Best thing they ever did was to bypass Kielor


From: G-S on
Diogenes wrote:
>
> D'oh, Marts, it might have something to do with an obscure, esoteric,
> rarely discussed phenomenon called THE HOON FACTOR.
>
> If you require elucidation of this, please let me know and I'lll be
> only too happy to explain. But no doubt. The Joint Chief Obfucsators
> of Ozmoto, the Right Honorable G-S and Zebee One Ryobi will offer
> fifteen thousand other faux logical "reasons" for what is happening.
>

What makes you think I doubt it is the 'hoon factor' the was the
justification for the changes to the speed limits in the area?

I'm not denying that at all.

What I am saying is that the changes the gumbiment made will drive
legitimate motorcyclists away from the area as well as the dangerous
hoons (that the law was aimed at) and that the local tourist towns will
suffer from reduced passing trade as a result.

Me? I used to be happy to bend swing gently back and forth in the
tightish corners at around the speed limit and use the occasional short
straight to zip past slower cars.

Now It's 80kph and not 100kph and I can't pass the slow cars on the
straights without breaking the law.

That's taken an enjoyable ride and made it boring so I won't bother
going and the same will apply to many other riders.

The government would have done better to have found a way to target
dangerously speeding riders without driving away just about all the rest
of the motorbikes as well.


G-S
From: G-S on
Peter wrote:
>
> Have I mentioned how much I am enjoying the DR650?
>
> :-P

More and more motorcyclists are buying dual purpose bikes because of the
increasingly strict rules along formerly popular riding roads
close(ish) to major cities.

That doesn't do the traders in the towns along those roads (or the
economies of those small tourist towns) much good though...


G-S