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From: G-S on 4 Feb 2010 02:28 Diogenes wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:13:44 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > >> Diogenes wrote: >>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:59:27 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Diogenes wrote >>> >>>>> What they WON'T do is stop being hoons and/or actually start >>>>> denouncing hoons for the stain on the motorcycling community that they >>>>> are. And the main reason for this is that by and large they ARE the >>>>> motorcycling community. >>>> I own and ride a 1200cc air-cooled twin which makes about 75hp at the >>>> rear wheel and weighs about 250kg. >>>> That's not very 'hoonish' in my book. >>>> Oh and there is my Suzuki & HRD outfit (that's got a double sidecar on >>>> it), I'm not sure how fast it goes but it gets a bit scary over 120kph >>>> so I never really tried. >>>> My next bike purchase? >>>> >>>> Well I'm trying to decide between a SYM HD200 scooter and an Aprillia >>>> Scarabeo 200 and wondering if I'd be better with something just a little >>>> bigger like a SYM Citycom 300i or Aprillia 250. >>>> >>>> Oh... the 300i makes 24ps and it's the most powerful of that lot. >>>> >>>> I don't really think I'm part of the supersports rider demographic >>>> you're making me out to be (and nor to be honest are any of the regulars >>>> I've met from this newsgroup). >>> I think an _intelligent_ reader would have deduced that I was not not >>> saying that you, personally, were a hoon. Go back and do Engish >>> Comprehension 101 _again_, will you, please, there's a good lad... > >> Yes but you did say that the majority of the newsgroup either were hoons >> or were apologists for them or words to that effect. > > Yes, and what part of "none of that infers or implies that you, Geoff, > are a hoon" do you still not get? > > BTW, it also does not infer or imply that you , Geoff, are NOT a hoon. > >> I'm just wondering who you are specifically putting in each category? > > Keep wondering. ;-) > No... I'm asking, not wondering. Of course you can dodge the question (but then it'd be you guilty of obscufation :) G-S
From: G-S on 4 Feb 2010 02:29 Diogenes wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:15:56 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > >> Diogenes wrote: >>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 00:09:46 -0800 (PST), theo >>> <theodoreb(a)bigpond.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 4:04 pm, Diogenes <cy...(a)society.sux.ok> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:59:27 +1100, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> I don't really think I'm part of the supersports rider demographic >>>>>> you're making me out to be (and nor to be honest are any of the regulars >>>>>> I've met from this newsgroup). >>>>> I think an _intelligent_ reader would have deduced that I was not not >>>>> saying that you, personally, were a hoon. Go back and do Engish >>>>> Comprehension 101 _again_, will you, please, there's a good lad... >>>> Are you saying Geoff inferred? I thought you implied. >>> Geoff WAS inferring. I was NOT implying he, personally, was a hoon, >>> and you, GO AWAY !!! ;-) > >> He's a valuable, informative and amusing addition to the thread. > > Clue: I did include a "winkie", Geoff. > > ================= > > Onya bike > > Gerry I try not to look at guys when they are 'winkling'... [1] G-S [1] not that there's anything wrong with that.
From: G-S on 4 Feb 2010 02:34 Nev.. wrote: > G-S wrote: >> Diogenes wrote: >>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:01:32 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Diogenes wrote: >>>>>> Lowering the speed limit and altering the road marking laws to >>>>>> prohibit overtaking simply enables the enforcement effort to trap >>>>>> people who are riding in a sensible, and until recently, perfectly >>>>>> legal manner. >>>>> So you're saying that it's all an evil, antisocial plan to trap the >>>>> innocent whilst turning a blind eye to the guilty? You don't think >>>>> that's a bit of a skewed view of reality? >>> >>>> I'm saying that the gumbiment see this lowering of speed limits as >>>> having the bonus effect of raising the amount of revenue their >>>> mobile tax gathering units (highway patrols) get from day dreaming >>>> car drivers (and the occasional motorcyclist). >>> >>> Yes, it gives them more money with which to finance more active >>> traffic patrolling. Good innit? It's called economics". JL can >>> tell you all about it. ;-) >>> >> >> If it was used for that I wouldn't have such a problem with it. >> >> If it was even used to fund general police services I wouldn't have a >> problem with it. >> >> But the revenue from fines goes mostly into general revenue where it's >> used for such diverse and useful things as excessive superannuation >> funds for pollies and golden plane tickets for retired pollies and >> their families and blowing their own horn in television adverts. > > ..and schools, hospitals, services for the elderly. That stuff too. > > Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8 I pay for private education for our child (over $10k a year). My mother and my aunts weren't/aren't eligible for 'services for the elderly'. In fact my aunt recently had to pay $250000 for admission to a low care facility that is available to older people on benefits for free. I have private health care and so do all my family, I haven't used the public health system in over 20 years. 'That stuff too' is about as useful to me as what I said in the earlier post... G-S
From: theo on 4 Feb 2010 03:13 On Feb 4, 3:26 pm, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > Diogenes wrote: > > So where are we going with this? Disband all government agencies and > > hire private contractors? More activism to get the government to > > redirect the revenue? Or just whinging in newsgroups because it's oh > > so tendy? Where? > > I'm waiting for someone to start a 3rd party that actually makes sense :) Our preferential voting system was specifically designed so as to make it almost impossible for any but the two major parties to be elected. I'm for proportional voting. Theo
From: Pietro on 4 Feb 2010 03:42
"Diogenes" <cynic(a)society.sux.ok> wrote in message news:at7hm51bq5f5r0etfvsl30s164po6ro6ao(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:16:56 +1100, Moike <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>Diogenes wrote: >>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:22:38 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>> >> >>>> The government would have done better to have found a way to target >>>> dangerously speeding riders without driving away just about all the >>>> rest >>>> of the motorbikes as well. >>> >>> And what proposals can you offer the gummint? > >>Well for a start, there was already in place a reasonable speed limit on >>the road. Applying some manpower to enforce the existing laws would >>presumably allow them to tackle the high-speed hoons. > > And this has worked where exactly? And this has been tried where exactly? Pietro |