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From: Diogenes on 6 Feb 2010 16:22
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:59:21 +1100, "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com>
>If people don't know what they are doing when they enter the polling
>booth that is not a problem with the voting system.
It is if the system is way too complex. And it is. And that is
deliberate. It's not a democracy, it's a con game.
From: G-S on 6 Feb 2010 18:01
> If people don't know what they are doing when they enter the polling
> booth that is not a problem with the voting system. If it is a failing,
> it is a failing of the education of voters, not of the system of voting.
You don't regard the 'education of voters in how to vote' as part of the
From: G-S on 6 Feb 2010 18:03
> G-S wrote...
>> I have private health care and so do all my family, I haven't used the
>> public health system in over 20 years.
> You would have. For example, every time you pulled out your Medicare card. Or if
> you're admitted to the ED, which is paid for by Medicare.
I haven't been to an emergency department in over 20 years.
The only times I've been in hospital in more than 20 years I've been in
> And the PBS for prescription drugs.
I actually am on regular prescriptions, plus aspirin.
None of the prescriptions I am on are on the PBS (although there are
less effective alternatives that are in the PBS list) and aspirin I buy
over the counter.
From: G-S on 6 Feb 2010 18:06
> If you buy one, it is because you want those two things, or you want
> people to think you want those two things. Either way, you're a hoon.
> Even if you never do a wheelie on your litre-class sports bike, and you
> always stick to speed limits, you're still a hoon.
I have to disagree with that.
If a person never speeds, never wheelies, never breaks the law and rides
a litre-class sports bike they are NOT a hoon.
They no doubt want people to think they are a hoon (or the 2nd coming of
M Doohan) but that doesn't make them one.
At best they are FAIL at hoon...
From: Nev.. on 6 Feb 2010 18:41
> Nev.. wrote:
>> If people don't know what they are doing when they enter the polling
>> booth that is not a problem with the voting system. If it is a
>> failing, it is a failing of the education of voters, not of the system
>> of voting.
> You don't regard the 'education of voters in how to vote' as part of the
> 'voting system'?
No. The voters need to be educated about how voting works regardless of
the system. Are you saying we should dumb down the system of election
to the lowest common denominator just so that the people will understand
how their vote counts, while at the same time shifting to a system which
less represents their wishes? The whole concept is incomprehensible to
me because I can't understand how people could be asked to number boxes
from 1 to n in their order of preference, and yet not understand that
they were numbering boxes from 1 to n in their order of preference. It
doesn't sound like rocket science to me. Maybe we should only let
people who understand how voting works, vote, which unfortunately for
you will remove your right to a vote, based on what you've posted in
this thread :)