From: Nev.. on
G-S wrote:
> Marts wrote:
>> G-S wrote...
>>
>>> I have private health care and so do all my family, I haven't used
>>> the public health system in over 20 years.
>>
>> You would have. For example, every time you pulled out your Medicare
>> card. Or if
>> you're admitted to the ED, which is paid for by Medicare.
>
> I haven't been to an emergency department in over 20 years.
>
> The only times I've been in hospital in more than 20 years I've been in
> private hospital.
>
>> And the PBS for prescription drugs.
>
> I actually am on regular prescriptions, plus aspirin.
>
> None of the prescriptions I am on are on the PBS (although there are
> less effective alternatives that are in the PBS list) and aspirin I buy
> over the counter.
>
> Try again...

LOL. Are you naive enough to think that when you attend a private
hospital, they don't claim 100% of your Medicare entitlement on your
behalf? LOL.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
From: Andrew on
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:06:44 +1100, G-S wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
>>
>> If you buy one, it is because you want those two things, or you want
>> people to think you want those two things. Either way, you're a hoon.
>> Even if you never do a wheelie on your litre-class sports bike, and you
>> always stick to speed limits, you're still a hoon.
>>
>>
> I have to disagree with that.
>
> If a person never speeds, never wheelies, never breaks the law and rides
> a litre-class sports bike they are NOT a hoon.
>
> They no doubt want people to think they are a hoon (or the 2nd coming of
> M Doohan) but that doesn't make them one.
>
> At best they are FAIL at hoon...
>
>
> G-S

Would you settle for 'wannabe' hoon? Nobody buys a sports bike for its
touring capability, or its baggage handling, or its ground clearance. The
fact that the rider doesn't behave like a hoon doesn't alter the
motivation for the purchase.

May be 'cowardy custard' hoon? [1]

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Andrew

[1] Who is including himself in this definition.
From: Nev.. on
Andrew wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:06:44 +1100, G-S wrote:
>
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> If you buy one, it is because you want those two things, or you want
>>> people to think you want those two things. Either way, you're a hoon.
>>> Even if you never do a wheelie on your litre-class sports bike, and you
>>> always stick to speed limits, you're still a hoon.
>>>
>>>
>> I have to disagree with that.
>>
>> If a person never speeds, never wheelies, never breaks the law and rides
>> a litre-class sports bike they are NOT a hoon.
>>
>> They no doubt want people to think they are a hoon (or the 2nd coming of
>> M Doohan) but that doesn't make them one.
>>
>> At best they are FAIL at hoon...
>>
>>
>> G-S
>
> Would you settle for 'wannabe' hoon? Nobody buys a sports bike for its
> touring capability, or its baggage handling, or its ground clearance. The
> fact that the rider doesn't behave like a hoon doesn't alter the
> motivation for the purchase.

Most of my motivation for buying highpowered sports bikes has been being
comfort and laziness. Whats going to happen is you're going to have to
define sports bike and hoon to within a very narrow definition and the
real world will trip you over with diversity. So lets start by defining
'sportsbike'.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
From: hippo on
Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>
> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:44:46 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote:
>
> >Nev.. wrote:
> >> G-S wrote:
> >>> Nev.. wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> .. The least voted against
> >>>> candidate wins. You really can't respect the intent of all of the
> >>>> voters much more than that.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> In the house of representatives that's probably the case, but in the
> >>> senate preference deals and 1 box above the line voting can see
> >>> candidates that are much less popular (both in the voted for and voted
> >>> against senses of the term) elected.
> >>>
> >>> I can't remember the exact numbers but a fundie got elected to the
> >>> senate last election with something like 50 or 60 thousand votes and a
> >>> green candidate with several hundred thousand votes standing against
> >>> him didn't get elected.
> >>>
> >>> That's an artificial distortion...
> >>
> >> I'm quite confused now, because in this very thread when Theo said "I'm
> >> for proportional voting" you said "Yah me too..." and proportional
> >> voting is indeed the method of voting which the Senate uses, and yet now
> >> you seem to think that this is a bad thing. Please explain.
> >>
> >
> >I'm for proportional voting and against preferential voting.
> >
> >So I'd like to see a government with proportional voting and without
> >preferences, because preferences distort the result so that the largest
> >proportion of voters chosen representative doesn't get elected.
> >
> >I'm also against small regions being used to elect members, I'd rather
> >see state based numbers used. That way minor parties who have (as an
> >example) 10% of the vote end up with 10% of the seats.
> >
> >In the current system a 3rd party can get well over 10% of the vote and
> >not win a single seat in the lower house.
> >
> >That also seems an artificial distortion to me.
>
> Checked out the Hare-Clark voting system used in Tas? It balances out
> things nicely without giving the financially big parties too much
> leash.
>
>

Yebbut.... you still have a distortion in that whoever forms a government
still has to rely on the Federl Gumment to balance the books :)

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From: Diogenes on
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:06:44 +1100, G-S <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote:

>I have to disagree with that.

Of COURSE you do...

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Onya bike

Gerry