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From: Diogenes on 2 Feb 2010 17:38 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:32:30 +1100, Diogenes <cynic(a)society.sux.ok> wrote: >>The problem is, hoons are hardly going to be operating in the (newly >>illegal) 80-100 range. >Oh? So what's all this I read about motoryclists having deserted the >area in droves? Anecdotal evidence goes against your theory it seems. Oops I misread what you wrote. Mea culpa. What I should have said was: "Well then, the new measures appear to be working." ================= Onya bike Gerry
From: Kevin Gleeson on 2 Feb 2010 18:49 On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:32:23 +1100, Moike <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Kevin Gleeson wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:37:52 GMT, Kevin Gleeson >> <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:09:33 GMT, "George W Frost" >>> <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:835fm5plaa6e1b7csgmf77t8kqjdp90ub7(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:01:17 GMT, "George W Frost" >>>>> <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:i00fm5lp3cmg7uu67tua5giaskfmrsqan7(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:43:47 GMT, "George W Frost" >>> Snipperoony >>> >>>>>> Being a bit picky, but there isn't a direct way from the Hume to Calder >>>>>> Park Raceway >>>>>> >>>>>> Unless of coarse, you are coming down from Sydney >>>>>> >>>>> You are being picky. The last time I went to Calder was probably 24 >>>>> years ago. I haven't looked at a map but thought it was the same road >>>>> out that way. If it isn't it's one just as boring. >>>> It's my job to be picky..... >>>> But, it is still the same road as it was 24 years ago and doesn't go >>>> anywhere near the Hume Highway >>> Well there ya go. 24 years and too many beers had them in the same >>> place in my mind. >>> >>> <Wanders off to Googlemaps> >>> >>> Well looky there. Guess I never went north when I was living here >>> much. My point still stands that they are similar boring bits of >>> road. >> >> Actually, looking at that map has brought back some memories. When CDs >> first started coming out there was an amazing store out in Keilor that >> a mate and I would ride over to regularly to stock up on. 1985 this >> would have been. I recall a small shopping centre that had a record >> store that had (for its day) a massive collection of CDs. Every pay >> day, off to Keilor :-) >Would that be the (original?) JB HiFi store? Shopping centre around a >square park. That's it, I recall the square . So that was the original JB? Well there ya go.
From: CrazyCam on 2 Feb 2010 21:23 Diogenes wrote: <snip> > Hoons are an elusive crowd. You target one area, they go to another. > Nothing seems to deter them anyway. They are irresponsible adrenalin > junkies with overblown egoes and reptilian brians. I can't see any > program that would be effective in dealing with them short of > something drakonian. So, unfortunately as is the case with so many > other things, the innocent get inconvenienced because of the guilty. I used to have an off-sider called Brian, but he wasn't very reptilian, apart from he liked lounging about in the sun. However, I do agree with what you are saying. Certainly, I dunno how the authorities can realistically deal with the real hard-core loonies. In the overall scheme of things, possibly ignoring them might be as good a ploy as any, since they generally are more likely to kill themselves rather than a bunch of innocent bystanders. This is not to say that I won't be very cranky indeed if I get hit, while I am riding sensibly, by a hoon on the wrong side of the road, doing over 150 kph on the Old Road. And I'd be even more pissed off if I got cleaned up by a cop car desperately trying to chase said hoon. > I've been in this newsgroup now for about 15 years and I have yet to > see the more rational motorcyclists come out and denounce the hoons > for spoiling it for the the rest. They whinge about the authorities > but they won't whinge about the hoons who brought it all upon us. I have, in the past, denounced the hoons, and will probably continue to do so into the future. Am I excluded as failing to be "more rational" or have you just forgotten? regards, CrazyCam
From: theo on 2 Feb 2010 22:53 On Feb 3, 10:23 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Diogenes wrote: > > I've been in this newsgroup now for about 15 years and I have yet to > > see the more rational motorcyclists come out and denounce the hoons > > for spoiling it for the the rest. They whinge about the authorities > > but they won't whinge about the hoons who brought it all upon us. > > I have, in the past, denounced the hoons, and will probably continue to > do so into the future. > > Am I excluded as failing to be "more rational" or have you just forgotten? "More Rational" than Gerry is not neccessarily very rational. :-) Theo
From: Diogenes on 2 Feb 2010 23:55
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:23:11 +1100, CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> Hoons are an elusive crowd. You target one area, they go to another. >> Nothing seems to deter them anyway. They are irresponsible adrenalin >> junkies with overblown egoes and reptilian brains. I can't see any >> program that would be effective in dealing with them short of >> something drakonian. So, unfortunately as is the case with so many >> other things, the innocent get inconvenienced because of the guilty. > >I used to have an off-sider called Brian, but he wasn't very reptilian, >apart from he liked lounging about in the sun. Very funny. Hahahahaha ;-) >However, I do agree with what you are saying. >Certainly, I dunno how the authorities can realistically deal with the >real hard-core loonies. > >In the overall scheme of things, possibly ignoring them might be as good >a ploy as any, since they generally are more likely to kill themselves >rather than a bunch of innocent bystanders. I think you and I have different definitions for hoons. by my definition, there ar a hell of a lot of them. I'd say a significant percentage of sport bike riders would be hoons. That number certainly demands that the authorities act. >This is not to say that I won't be very cranky indeed if I get hit, >while I am riding sensibly, by a hoon on the wrong side of the road, >doing over 150 kph on the Old Road. I gave up on the Old Road for that very reason. Seems if you were going through the twisties at about 40% above the advisory speeds signposted, you'd still get gaggles of hoons who just HAD to pass you in the bends. >And I'd be even more pissed off if I got cleaned up by a cop car >desperately trying to chase said hoon. Goes without saying. >> I've been in this newsgroup now for about 15 years and I have yet to >> see the more rational motorcyclists come out and denounce the hoons >> for spoiling it for the the rest. They whinge about the authorities >> but they won't whinge about the hoons who brought it all upon us. > >I have, in the past, denounced the hoons, and will probably continue to >do so into the future. Well you're not doing it loud enough and often enough. ;-) >Am I excluded as failing to be "more rational" or have you just forgotten? I've met you. You're "more rational". Certainly more rational than I am... ;-) ================= Onya bike Gerry |