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From: theo on 11 Feb 2010 18:40 On Feb 11, 3:01 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: > theo wrote: > > Get back under your bridge Nev. > > Who's trolling? What a copout. You still haven't described how an > independant candidate is equally advantaged. Under our system an independant or new party has to get 50%+1 support for their initiatives in one electorate. In a proportional system they only need to get 1% support from the nation. E.g.Pauline's party had little chance of getting even one member of the National Parliament despite having close to 30% support.. In a proportional system she would have got 30 seats (assuming a 100 seat parliament, for simplicity). Theo
From: theo on 11 Feb 2010 18:43 On Feb 11, 3:49 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: > It sounds like you don't know what independent means. Are you > suggesting that the members of the Greens Party and the Democrats Party > are "independant". The first line of the wiki entry for "Independent > (politician)" sums it up. In politics, an independent is a politician > who is not affiliated with any political party. And doesn't owe any other party for their preferences? Theo
From: bikerbetty on 11 Feb 2010 23:24 On Feb 12, 8:06 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > bikerbetty wrote: > > <snip> > > > Nor is she tall enough or long-legged enough to find one rideable. > > > I haven't yet found a Triumph that I can sit on and touch the ground > > properly. One of these days I'll get around to trying one of the new > > Bonnevilles for size... > > Don't you fit the Street Triple? > > The Bonnies have very low seats, lovely style and go pretty well, but > they are also surprisingly heavy. > > Perhaps, at some time in the future, when I get _really_ geriatric, I'll > get one of them. > > regards, > CrazyCam Haven't ever had the opportunity to sit on a Street Triple, CC - but I stood next to one once, and it seemed enormously high. It was a very beautiful black one - looked like a total weapon, and the guy who owned it really looked the part in his flash leathers, but he rode like a nanna - it made me giggle. I sat on a Monster the other day - one of the 998s(? I think) and could tiptoe touch the ground on both sides. Maybe one of the 698s(?) would fit ok.... but to even consider something as expensive (and expensive to fix!) as a Ducati I would insist on having AT LEAST a whole year without a single 'oops' first *grin*. As for Bonnies being heavy - heavy to steer or heavy to pick up? Well, either would be a pain, I suppose. back to the drawing board ;-) betty the realist
From: Andrew on 12 Feb 2010 01:51 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:24:48 -0800, bikerbetty wrote: > > As for Bonnies being heavy - heavy to steer or heavy to pick up? Well, > either would be a pain, I suppose. back to the drawing board ;-) > > betty the realist A Suzuki SV650S has a curb weight of 196kg according to Suzuki, and I think you need to add a bit for oil and fuel if Suzuki are being typical for the Japanese manufacturers - call it 220kg wet. A Bonnie has a wet weight of 225kg, so I'd say there's next to nothing in it. He probably meant heavy to push, like if you go nose in to the kerb and have to push out with your feet. Bonnies have famously light and responsive steering. Of course, he might have meant heavy to hold up in a stiff breeze. :-) -- Regards Andrew
From: JohnO on 12 Feb 2010 03:45
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:51:06 GMT, Andrew <amckNOSPAM3047(a)telNOSPAMstra.com> wrote: >On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:24:48 -0800, bikerbetty wrote: > > >> >> As for Bonnies being heavy - heavy to steer or heavy to pick up? Well, >> either would be a pain, I suppose. back to the drawing board ;-) >> >> betty the realist > >A Suzuki SV650S has a curb weight of 196kg according to Suzuki, and I >think you need to add a bit for oil and fuel if Suzuki are being typical >for the Japanese manufacturers - call it 220kg wet. A Bonnie has a wet >weight of 225kg, so I'd say there's next to nothing in it. > >He probably meant heavy to push, like if you go nose in to the kerb and >have to push out with your feet. Bonnies have famously light and >responsive steering. > >Of course, he might have meant heavy to hold up in a stiff breeze. :-) Are the Bonnies willy willy proof? JohnO <just askin' Betty> Beer? |