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From: CrazyCam on 13 Feb 2010 01:25 Andrew wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:59:29 +1030, JohnO wrote: <snip> >>> A Suzuki SV650S has a curb weight of 196kg according to Suzuki, and I >>> think you need to add a bit for oil and fuel if Suzuki are being typical >>> for the Japanese manufacturers - call it 220kg wet. A Bonnie has a wet >>> weight of 225kg, so I'd say there's next to nothing in it. >> Curb weight is ready to ride. Dry weight of the SV650s is 169kg >> (according to wiki). >> >>> He probably meant heavy to push, like if you go nose in to the kerb and >>> have to push out with your feet. Bonnies have famously light and >>> responsive steering. <snip> > > No, you're right. So a Bonnie is 15% heavier than a SV650S. That's quite > a bit. So Cam was right too. Goodness! I must forward that comment on to my wife..... she'll have a good giggle at me being accused of being right! ;-) > May be it's the riding position too - on the Bonnie it's old-school > straight up and down, whereas on the SV it's more lean forward, weight on > the wrists. Can't comment on the SV650. I did have a test ride on the Bonnie, just about two years ago, before the cast-wheels and injection models came out. I loved it. A wee bit heavy to get off the side stand, but a lovely machine to cruise on. It was only recently, when I've been riding with a mate with a Bonnie, cast-wheels, injection, and a bit fiddled with, that I was paying attention to it's weight and power output. It suddenly dawned on me that the Bonnie was very nearly as heavy as my R850R, possibly has slightly more power, but has considerably less ground clearance. regards, CrazyCam
From: Zebee Johnstone on 13 Feb 2010 02:14 In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:06:43 +1100 CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > to what you do with a motorcycle. ;-) > > You make a mockery of telling learners that it's good if they can get > both feet on the ground, sitting on their motorbike. Well it is for learners! My very first bike was a CM250 which was a cruisery thing and I could flat foot it, the next was an RD250 with cut down seat and I could just about flat foot that. Many learners, especially women, have learned to hate motorcycles because some big boofy bloke got them the 'right' bike. Bod I know up in Qld has a Z200C Kawasaki for lending to female learners. They pootle about on it for a bit, get their confidence up, and within a few months are hammering the poor bloody thing: hooning about on it, lanesplitting, riding it along horrible slippery gravel roads and so on. It's small, it's light, it has wideish bars and an upright riding position, it's utterly inoffensive and simple, and they very quickly learn to master it. Once they have got the confidence and the balance, then they can think about tiptoeing 240kg of Norge! Zebee - who was riding in indoor soccer shoes today, and realised the Medal boots add a certain amount of leg length....
From: Hammo on 13 Feb 2010 06:09 On 13/2/10 6:14 PM, in article slrnhnckba.uj9.zebeej(a)gmail.com, "Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:06:43 +1100 > CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> to what you do with a motorcycle. ;-) >> >> You make a mockery of telling learners that it's good if they can get >> both feet on the ground, sitting on their motorbike. > > > Many learners, especially women, have learned to hate motorcycles > because some big boofy bloke got them the 'right' bike. Bullshit. H
From: CrazyCam on 13 Feb 2010 15:21 Hammo wrote: > > > On 13/2/10 6:14 PM, in article slrnhnckba.uj9.zebeej(a)gmail.com, "Zebee > Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:06:43 +1100 >> CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>> to what you do with a motorcycle. ;-) >>> >>> You make a mockery of telling learners that it's good if they can get >>> both feet on the ground, sitting on their motorbike. >> >> Many learners, especially women, have learned to hate motorcycles >> because some big boofy bloke got them the 'right' bike. > > Bullshit. I don't think so. regards, CrazyCam
From: G-S on 13 Feb 2010 16:54
CrazyCam wrote: > Hammo wrote: >> >> >> On 13/2/10 6:14 PM, in article slrnhnckba.uj9.zebeej(a)gmail.com, "Zebee >> Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:06:43 +1100 >>> CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> to what you do with a motorcycle. ;-) >>>> >>>> You make a mockery of telling learners that it's good if they can get >>>> both feet on the ground, sitting on their motorbike. >>> >>> Many learners, especially women, have learned to hate motorcycles >>> because some big boofy bloke got them the 'right' bike. >> >> Bullshit. > > I don't think so. > > regards, > CrazyCam I don't think so either. G-S |