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From: Kevin Gleeson on 13 Feb 2010 17:01 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:14:50 +0000 (UTC), Zebee Johnstone <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: >In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:06:43 +1100 >CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> to what you do with a motorcycle. ;-) >> >> You make a mockery of telling learners that it's good if they can get >> both feet on the ground, sitting on their motorbike. > >Well it is for learners! > >My very first bike was a CM250 which was a cruisery thing and I could >flat foot it, the next was an RD250 with cut down seat and I could >just about flat foot that. > >Many learners, especially women, have learned to hate motorcycles >because some big boofy bloke got them the 'right' bike. > >Bod I know up in Qld has a Z200C Kawasaki for lending to female >learners. They pootle about on it for a bit, get their confidence >up, and within a few months are hammering the poor bloody thing: >hooning about on it, lanesplitting, riding it along horrible slippery >gravel roads and so on. It's small, it's light, it has wideish >bars and an upright riding position, it's utterly inoffensive and >simple, and they very quickly learn to master it. > >Once they have got the confidence and the balance, then they can think >about tiptoeing 240kg of Norge! > >Zebee > - who was riding in indoor soccer shoes today, and realised the Medal > boots add a certain amount of leg length.... Mate of mine met his 2nd wife when we went for a ride down the Huon and she came along. Slip of a girl. She was in her early 20s at the time. Anyway, she loved motorbikes. They ended up together and she did her training on a CB250. But she wanted to ride the Thunderace didn't she. And she bloody well did. I recall a run up Tassie's East Coast where we stopped to wait for some other bikes we had to meet. She had real difficulty finding a place to stop the bike so she could reach the ground, but managed it. Slid half off the bike as she pulled it up. But never dropped the thing.
From: Zebee Johnstone on 13 Feb 2010 17:35 In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:01:52 GMT Kevin Gleeson <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > > Mate of mine met his 2nd wife when we went for a ride down the Huon > and she came along. Slip of a girl. She was in her early 20s at the > time. Anyway, she loved motorbikes. They ended up together and she did > her training on a CB250. But she wanted to ride the Thunderace didn't > she. And she bloody well did. I recall a run up Tassie's East Coast SOme can do it no doubt. Another advantage of the Kwak I mentioned is that it's old and battered. So dropping it Doesn't Matter. It's been dropped before, it's fairly difficult to damage, the owner has spare blinkers and levers and bars in a box. I don't think it has been dropped more than a couple of times in its duties as a learner bike, but because dropping it Doesn't Matter, that's a confidence booster. And the light weight and simple design means the dropper can pick it up. The Norge is the first bike I've owned that I can't pick up by myself. That's not a weight issue, that's a plastics issue: when it is on its side the wheels aren't on the ground. I don't have the size or the arm strength to get it over to the point the wheels can bite and I can lever it up. It just slides when I try. This is Damned Annoying.... Zebee
From: atec 77 "atec 77 on 13 Feb 2010 18:09 Zebee Johnstone wrote: > In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:01:52 GMT > Kevin Gleeson <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: >> Mate of mine met his 2nd wife when we went for a ride down the Huon >> and she came along. Slip of a girl. She was in her early 20s at the >> time. Anyway, she loved motorbikes. They ended up together and she did >> her training on a CB250. But she wanted to ride the Thunderace didn't >> she. And she bloody well did. I recall a run up Tassie's East Coast > > SOme can do it no doubt. > > Another advantage of the Kwak I mentioned is that it's old and > battered. So dropping it Doesn't Matter. It's been dropped before, > it's fairly difficult to damage, the owner has spare blinkers and > levers and bars in a box. > > I don't think it has been dropped more than a couple of times in its > duties as a learner bike, but because dropping it Doesn't Matter, > that's a confidence booster. > > And the light weight and simple design means the dropper can pick > it up. The Norge is the first bike I've owned that I can't pick > up by myself. That's not a weight issue, that's a plastics issue: > when it is on its side the wheels aren't on the ground. I don't > have the size or the arm strength to get it over to the point the > wheels can bite and I can lever it up. It just slides when I try. > > This is Damned Annoying.... > > Zebee Applebox ? some Italian said give me a lever and a fulcrum I can move the world
From: Zebee Johnstone on 13 Feb 2010 18:14 In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:56 +1000 atec 77 <"atec 77 "@hotmail.com> wrote: > Zebee Johnstone wrote: >> And the light weight and simple design means the dropper can pick >> it up. The Norge is the first bike I've owned that I can't pick >> up by myself. That's not a weight issue, that's a plastics issue: >> when it is on its side the wheels aren't on the ground. I don't >> have the size or the arm strength to get it over to the point the >> wheels can bite and I can lever it up. It just slides when I try. > Applebox ? general size rather than height. Arm length is some of it. > some Italian said give me a lever and a fulcrum I can move the world I can move it fine. Just not in the upward direction. Zebee
From: Diogenes on 13 Feb 2010 20:03
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:35:59 +0000 (UTC), Zebee Johnstone <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have the size or the arm strength to get it over to the point the >wheels can bite and I can lever it up. It just slides when I try. Are you saying you've dropped the Norge? ================= Onya bike Gerry |