From: Nev.. on
Fulliautomatix wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:56 +1000
>> atec 77 <"atec 77 "@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the light weight and simple design means the dropper can pick
>>>> it up. The Norge is the first bike I've owned that I can't pick
>>>> up by myself. That's not a weight issue, that's a plastics issue:
>>>> when it is on its side the wheels aren't on the ground. I don't
>>>> have the size or the arm strength to get it over to the point the
>>>> wheels can bite and I can lever it up. It just slides when I try.
>>
>>
>>> Applebox ?
>>
>>
>> general size rather than height. Arm length is some of it.
>>
>>
>>> some Italian said give me a lever and a fulcrum I can move the world
>>
>>
>> I can move it fine. Just not in the upward direction.
>>
>> Zebee
>
> Fit crashbars - then u'll have a roll over point that will get the
> wheels on the ground...and you can put Hella Rallye 4000s on so you can
> see 4km while riding at night

Pfftt.. without any lights I can see 25,526,488,380,000,000,000km
(approx) at night.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
From: Jeff R. on

"Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
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>
> Pfftt.. without any lights I can see 25,526,488,380,000,000,000km (approx)
> at night.
>
> Nev..
> '08 DL1000K8

Meh.
Andromeda is 1000 times further than that. You haven't seen Andromeda?

JR


From: Nev.. on
Jeff R. wrote:
> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:0ZmdndeczfW5x-PWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>> Pfftt.. without any lights I can see 25,526,488,380,000,000,000km (approx)
>> at night.
>>
>> Nev..
>> '08 DL1000K8
>
> Meh.
> Andromeda is 1000 times further than that.

Not according to my calculator.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
From: Jeff R. on

"Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff R. wrote:
>> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
>> news:0ZmdndeczfW5x-PWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>>> Pfftt.. without any lights I can see 25,526,488,380,000,000,000km
>>> (approx) at night.
>>>
>>> Nev..
>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>
>> Meh.
>> Andromeda is 1000 times further than that.
>
> Not according to my calculator.
>
> Nev..
> '08 DL1000K8

(blush)
A simple slip of three orders of magnitude.
Happens all the time.

1 x 10^3 pardons, Effendi.

--
JR
(pulling head back in)


From: G-S on
Jeff R. wrote:
> "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:0ZmdndeczfW5x-PWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au...
>> Pfftt.. without any lights I can see 25,526,488,380,000,000,000km (approx)
>> at night.
>>
>> Nev..
>> '08 DL1000K8
>
> Meh.
> Andromeda is 1000 times further than that. You haven't seen Andromeda?
>
> JR
>

Andromeda (or Messier 31/NGC224) isn't the furthest unaided visual eye
object one can see actually.

Triangulum (Messier 33/NGC598) is actually about 500000 light years more
distant at 3000000 light years and is easily visible from a location
with a dark sky to the naked eye and is generally regarded as the
furthest normally naked eye visible object (such a claim is of course
open to interpretation).

Object Messier 81/NGC3031 or Bode's Galaxy has been observed visually at
extremely dark sites on nights of exceptionally clear viewing by highly
experienced viewers using averted vision.

This galaxy is an incredible 12 million light years away. A simple pair
of 8x50 binoculars is enough for the rest of us to see it :)


G-S