From: Wudsracer on
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>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:29:51 -0500, I am Tosk <justwaitafrekinminute(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <ee27a28f-2757-4372-acee-
>ea06d65939af(a)g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, jwc(a)sysmatrix.net says...
>>
>> > I never liked the 756 that much because the edges wore off so quickly,
>> > but I've come to realize that the tire still works pretty well as it
>> > wears (thanks to Baxter's prodding). I thought I'd give it another
>> > chance on this tire change.
>>
>> I always hated that tire. My impression was that it gave decent
>> drive, but sucked side-to-side and couldn't hold laterally, at least
>> in New England goo. Those characteristics in the back makes for a
>> wagging rear end, which is no big deal, but makes for a really bad
>> time in the front.
>>
>> I still like the 739s the best.
>>
>> JayC
>
>Yeah, that's why we ran the 43 in the front... Anyway, I asked the Cycle
>Gear guy about them today he said the new replacement is the same tread
>pattern, exactly, just a softer compound. Of course that really sucks to
>ride in the hard clay we ride in, I suppose they will break down
>quicker. Sir Tony likes Bridgestones at Rocky and it is his track...
>
>Rowdy Mouse Racing, I am made of a softer compound too...

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I really liked the Bridgestone 401/402 tire combination as my best
compromise of "anywhere" tires (rocks, mud, wear characteristics, or
rather handling characteristics as they wore). In fact, when they
were discontinued, I fount them on clearance sale for $90 a set, and
purchased two fronts and four rears.

Someday, I will get around to trying the new stuff when my current
stock gets lower. However, for Idaho next August, I will have a
trials tire on the rear. (Probably one of the Dunlops.)
Not racing seriously has considerably slowed my tire wear rate, (and
requirements).


Back in the early '90s, when I was still sort of fast, I ran Dunlop
752 front and rear, rocks, sand, or mud on my WR430 Huskies.
I kept two sets of tires for my race bike; a new sand/mud set, and the
old former "sand/mud" set, which was now/then my rock set.
Often, depending on the terrain of the next weekend's race, I would
change them back and forth three times a month. (Now that I'm older, I
wonder why in the hell I didn't use the wheels off the parts bike
instead of all the tire changing. I guess I may have gotten smarter in
my old age, to have finally thought of it.)
When the edges rounded off the sand/mud set, or the knobs started
shearing off the rock set, I'd buy a new sand/mud set and the rotation
would begin again.

Jim


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF

From: WoodsChick on
On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, HardWorkingDog <har...(a)mush.man> wrote:
> In article <MPG.256f9ef6ae167f14989...(a)eternal-september.org>,
>  I am Tosk <justwaitafrekinmin...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <ee27a28f-2757-4372-acee-
> > ea06d6593...(a)g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, j...(a)sysmatrix.net says...
>
> > > > I never liked the 756 that much because the edges wore off so quickly,
> > > > but I've come to realize that the tire still works pretty well as it
> > > > wears (thanks to Baxter's prodding). I thought I'd give it another
> > > > chance on this tire change.
>
> > > I always hated that tire.  My impression was that it gave decent
> > > drive, but sucked side-to-side and couldn't hold laterally, at least
> > > in New England goo.  Those characteristics in the back makes for a
> > > wagging rear end, which is no big deal, but makes for a really bad
> > > time in the front.
>
> > > I still like the 739s the best.
>
> > > JayC
>
> > Yeah, that's why we ran the 43 in the front... Anyway, I asked the Cycle
> > Gear guy about them today he said the new replacement is the same tread
> > pattern, exactly, just a softer compound. Of course that really sucks to
> > ride in the hard clay we ride in, I suppose they will break down
> > quicker. Sir Tony likes Bridgestones at Rocky and it is his track...
>
> If the Cycle Gear guy was trying to say the MX51 is the same tread
> pattern as the 756, he's doing a typical Cycle Gear guy job of
> spreading bullshit.

LOL! Eric and I read that (that the patterns are the same) and we both
blurted out "bullshit!" at the exact same time <G>

>
> I have in my garage a 756 and an MX51 and they are significantly
> different. Matter of fact, the Dunlop MX51 tread is almost a carbon
> copy of the Michelin S2 that I'm replacing...

Yeah, they are nothing alike.

Here on the bay side of the bay area, we're fortunate to have
RoadRider and Zoom, both good shops with lots of dirt stuff and gear
actually sitting on the shelves.

> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250- Hide quoted text -
>

Tami-

From: sturd on
HardWorkingDog asks:

> Would you agree-the 756/MX51 is probably THE most popular offroad
> tire?

Don't know but got to be one of the top ones. Bridgerock does
a lot in MX, been to a National or even a big amateur event lately?


> I ran a mc shop, I'd damn well make sure to have a couple of Dunlops
> in the tire rack. Always. It's like a lumber yard with no 2x4's, or a
> coffee store that only had decaf beans. phht

That I 100% agree.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
From: HardWorkingDog on
In article
<c699a199-606c-4514-b03d-23d47d049667(a)x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
WoodsChick <TamiRowell(a)msn.com> wrote:

> Here on the bay side of the bay area,

Ha! I guess that puts me on the non-bay side of the bay area.

> we're fortunate to have
> RoadRider and Zoom, both good shops with lots of dirt stuff and gear
> actually sitting on the shelves.

I just discovered a new place, can't believe it opened so quietly--Tri
Valley Moto, owned by Kari Prager et al. of Cal BMW is doing
BMW/Triumph/KTM and they've got Aftershocks in their building too--in
Livermore. I'll call them and see what tires they stock :)

--
Charles
'99 YZ250
From: JayC on
On Nov 19, 9:00 pm, sturd <mikesturdevant...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> HardWorkingDog volunteers:
>
> > I'll be the rmd guinea pig; just picked one up from Mach 1.
>
> The Dunlop web site still lists 752s.  So I don't know what
> that means.http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tirecatalog_tire.asp?id=12
>
> I like 756 back here in the goo better.

The 752 was a nice tire - MUCH better than the 756 that replaced it.

JayC
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