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From: John Tserkezis on 19 Feb 2010 20:24 On 20/02/2010 11:38 AM, alx wrote: > They now keep asking for the MTCN number and I keep resending (from > gmail online) the massive attached file of garbage (I think it's a > kawasaki PDF rehashed/encrypted and renamed to EPS to stuff up their > computer when Acrobat (surely, without fail) crashes trying to open > it. > I feel so dirty and bad. You are a cruel, cruel person. Keep going, keep going! This is just oozing entertainment value. :-)
From: alx on 19 Feb 2010 21:38 On Feb 20, 12:24 pm, John Tserkezis <j...(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote: > On 20/02/2010 11:38 AM, alx wrote: > > > They now keep asking for the MTCN number and I keep resending (from > > gmail online) the massive attached file of garbage (I think it's a > > kawasaki PDF rehashed/encrypted and renamed to EPS to stuff up their > > computer when Acrobat (surely, without fail) crashes trying to open > > it. > > I feel so dirty and bad. > > You are a cruel, cruel person. > > Keep going, keep going! This is just oozing entertainment value. :-) 41.220.75.3 Yep, it's traced to Nigeria. You'd think bikesales dot com au could do a simple block on Nigerian IP's.
From: John Tserkezis on 19 Feb 2010 23:57 On 20/02/2010 1:38 PM, alx wrote: > 41.220.75.3 > Yep, it's traced to Nigeria. > You'd think bikesales dot com au could do a simple block on Nigerian > IP's. They could, but it's not really going to help. They're not ALL based in Nigeria for one thing, and there *could* be some valid entries that ARE situated in Nigeria. Yes, I know the number are slanted against my idea, but that's not what it's about. You're effectivley censoring EVERYTHING that comes from one country, and politically (business-wise) that's not a great idea. You can't even shut these scams down. They're a dime a dozen, and since it requires significant resources to bring them down, it's still pointless, because there's 100 more where they came from. Nigeria as a government doesn't touch it, except for the odd case they take on for "show". Since these scams are quite a significant income of funds into Nigeria, their government is understandably quiet about it. Hey, who cares where the money comes from, we can always use more. However, scam baiting IS a good idea, it keeps them busy for a bit, and the more it happens, the less attractive idea it might seem for them. Perhaps this is a bit optimistic, but either way, its entertainment value is more than worth it. ;-)
From: alx on 20 Feb 2010 00:32 On Feb 20, 3:57 pm, John Tserkezis <j...(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote: > On 20/02/2010 1:38 PM, alx wrote: > > > 41.220.75.3 > > Yep, it's traced to Nigeria. > > You'd think bikesales dot com au could do a simple block on Nigerian > > IP's. > > They could, but it's not really going to help. They're not ALL based > in Nigeria for one thing, and there *could* be some valid entries that We're talking about trading motorbikes and cars..in Australia. For the inconvenience of point zero zero zero zero nought something of some genuine person in Nigeria that actually wants to buy a vehicle in Australia I don't see it too much of an issue to just block the whole IP range. The risks of continuing scams far outweigh the inconvenience of almost no one. Yes there are other means to circumvent the block such as VPN from a "legit" country..but why make it easier?
From: John Tserkezis on 20 Feb 2010 05:52
On 20/02/2010 4:32 PM, alx wrote: > We're talking about trading motorbikes and cars..in Australia. > For the inconvenience of point zero zero zero zero nought something > of some genuine person in Nigeria that actually wants to buy a vehicle > in Australia I don't see it too much of an issue to just block the > whole IP range. Politically, (again within a company) and thus commercially, that would be virtual suicide. It's akin to saying we're going to block Italy, because they make Motorcycles that not only are notoriously unreliable, they'll let you buy them then kill you a short time later. If you're going to block Nigeria based on scams, of which Nigeria is not the only source, and where scams only form a very small part of their total internet traffic, that's not going to fly. Google got away with it only because China was NOT a significant market for them, they were only a relatively small player there, and out of pure luck, they were getting hacked, where the targets were human rights activists - easy to presume the source was the Chinese Government. That wasn't the reason they pulled out, but politically, it proved quite valuable. Because the alternative was to pull out of china stating "we weren't making any money" akin to running off home with your tail between your legs. Google in this case IS the exception to the rule. They got lucky. > The risks of continuing scams far outweigh the inconvenience of almost > no one. Scam-wise yes, but scams are only a small part of their total internet traffic. You'd be blocking all the more valid stuff too. > Yes there are other means to circumvent the block such as VPN from a > "legit" country..but why make it easier? Why not? That's what everyone will be doing once the Great Chinese Firewall - I mean - the Great Australian firewall comes into play. |