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From: Austin Shackles on 16 Nov 2009 09:32 On or around Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:52 +0000, Tim <tim(a)nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: >In message <a746f59ho4ulnta278d3612c0ei0jtbhps(a)4ax.com>, Austin Shackles ><austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS(a)ddol-las.net> writes >>being hacked off with the number of clueless wankers with foglights on in >>the dark and rain, making extra glare which is no earthly use to anyone, I >>did this: >> >>http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/foglamps/ >> >>Won't do any good, of course. But feel free to sign it anyway. > > >http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070302 > >#114 says ... > >You MUST NOT > > * use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to >other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders > * use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously >reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid >dazzling other road users (see Rule 226) > >In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake >and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the >footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise >glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. sadly, RVLR doesn't proscribe the use of fog lights at the same time as dipped lights, exceopt in the clause referred to about dazzle and visibility. However, you can get 'em on that in any case. Fact of the matter is, no-one ever gets done for it - I want legislation to make it impossible to use both at once, and to bring fog lights into the MOT checks which they aren't at present: I know this, my disco II has been through an MOT and a taxi test with one of the front fogs broken. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!
From: Austin Shackles on 16 Nov 2009 09:33 On or around Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:37:07 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: >Austin Shackles wrote: >> being hacked off with the number of clueless wankers with foglights on in >> the dark and rain, making extra glare which is no earthly use to anyone, I >> did this: >> >> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/foglamps/ >> >> Won't do any good, of course. But feel free to sign it anyway. > >As Tim has pointed out, there is already the facility to prosecute. It >is a bit like the mobile phone use while driving farce, no extra >legislation is needed, rules/laws already existed. > >So, what the petition should really be trying to do is get plod to do >their job. > >Alternatively, demand the right to smash said fog lights as you pass :-) Tempting. However, what I was after, as I said, is to make it so you can't have dips and fogs on simultaneously. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!
From: Austin Shackles on 16 Nov 2009 09:34 On or around Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:49:48 -0800 (PST), Ned Ludd <callinicus1953(a)yahoo.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: >On Nov 5, 5:52�pm, Austin Shackles ><austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESU...(a)ddol-las.net> wrote: >> being hacked off with the number of clueless wankers with foglights on in >> the dark and rain, making extra glare which is no earthly use to anyone, I >> did this: >> >> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/foglamps/ >> >> Won't do any good, of course. �But feel free to sign it anyway. >> -- >> Austin Shackles. �www.ddol-las.net�my opinions are just that >> Travel The Galaxy! �Meet Fascinating Life Forms... >> ------------------------------------------------\ � >> � �>> �http://www.schlockmercenary.com/�<< � � �\ �...and Kill them. >> a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! > >Hi there , >Might it not be a good idea to have a petition to change the law such >that all fog lights are automatically reset to off, when headlights or >ignition are turned off. This would at least stop the useless toss- >pots driving with the wretched things on and not know how to turn them >off. >Ned Ludd Mine do... however, that would only stop the incompetent, not those who wilfully turn 'em on for whatever misguided reason. -- Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!
From: Tim on 16 Nov 2009 10:04 In message <cfo2g5pbp79vqf3hqosppv50k2ejlp84q3(a)4ax.com>, Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS(a)ddol-las.net> writes >On or around Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:52 +0000, Tim ><tim(a)nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: > >>In message <a746f59ho4ulnta278d3612c0ei0jtbhps(a)4ax.com>, Austin Shackles >><austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS(a)ddol-las.net> writes >>>being hacked off with the number of clueless wankers with foglights on in >>>the dark and rain, making extra glare which is no earthly use to anyone, I >>>did this: >>> >>>http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/foglamps/ >>> >>>Won't do any good, of course. But feel free to sign it anyway. >> >> >>http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070302 >> >>#114 says ... >> >>You MUST NOT >> >> * use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to >>other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders >> * use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously >>reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid >>dazzling other road users (see Rule 226) >> >>In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake >>and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the >>footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise >>glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. > >sadly, RVLR doesn't proscribe the use of fog lights at the same time as >dipped lights, exceopt in the clause referred to about dazzle and >visibility. > I thought (waits for correction) that it was some construction requirement that front fogs could only come on with dipped lights and not with just side lights. -- Tim
From: Higgins on 16 Nov 2009 13:30
Austin Shackles wrote: > On or around Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:52 +0000, Tim > <tim(a)nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly: > >> In message <a746f59ho4ulnta278d3612c0ei0jtbhps(a)4ax.com>, Austin Shackles >> <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS(a)ddol-las.net> writes >>> being hacked off with the number of clueless wankers with foglights on in >>> the dark and rain, making extra glare which is no earthly use to anyone, I >>> did this: >>> >>> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/foglamps/ >>> >>> Won't do any good, of course. But feel free to sign it anyway. >> >> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070302 >> >> #114 says ... >> >> You MUST NOT >> >> * use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to >> other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders >> * use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously >> reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid >> dazzling other road users (see Rule 226) >> >> In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake >> and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the >> footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise >> glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. > > sadly, RVLR doesn't proscribe the use of fog lights at the same time as > dipped lights, exceopt in the clause referred to about dazzle and > visibility. > Not sure why you would want to ban using fog lights with dipped lights. That's usually the best combination as full beams just bounce straight back at you in fog. |