From: The Older Gentleman on
sweller <sweller(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Champ wrote:
>
> > > The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates in
> > > clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them.
> >
> > Really? Why? I've never heard this before.
>
> Neither have I and I've never done it.
>
> When we (read: Mike) changed the clutch on the race bike they were just
> put in.

Oh well. I remember reading somewhere it was advisable and so I've
always done it.

And guess what? It's always worked ;-)


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From: mark on
In message <6p08ihF5opkvU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Rich B
<richard.brookmanNOSPAM(a)THANKSbtinternet.com> writes
>TOG(a)Toil typed:
>> On 24 Nov, 14:34, Champ <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:10:15 +0000, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk
>>>
>>> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>>> The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates
>>>> in clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them.
>>>
>>> Really? Why? I've never heard this before.
>>
>> I thought it was common knowledge. It allows them to soak up the oil -
>> remember they're essentially fibre, and if they're totally dry, the
>> clutch may grab.
>>
>> That said, putting them in dry and then running the engine for a
>> short while will probably have the same effect.
>
>Cork plates, definitely. I can't see why modern fibre plates should
>be, but then it's recommended practice for Land Rover Railko bushes as
>well, and they would seem to be impervious material. Perhaps it's magic.
>
It seems the ebc items are cork based...
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From: Rusty_Hinge on
The message <6p08ihF5opkvU1(a)mid.individual.net>
from "Rich B" <richard.brookmanNOSPAM(a)THANKSbtinternet.com> contains
these words:

> Cork plates, definitely. I can't see why modern fibre plates should
> be, but
> then it's recommended practice for Land Rover Railko bushes as well, and
> they would seem to be impervious material. Perhaps it's magic.

I think those Lard Roller bushes are sintered phosphor bronze, or
similar, and if so, will be very slightly porous.

BTW, don't use Hipoy or similar on Oil-Lite bushes - Mk I Concertinas
has them in their gearbrokes, Glod knows why - and they un-sintered...

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From: Rusty_Hinge on
The message <ptBIWcGURvKJFwZ6(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk>
from Pete Fisher <Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> In communiqu� <j8sli41k8kjlu8d533q1j2drrhvg4neipv(a)4ax.com>, Pip Luscher
> <pluscher(a)live.invalid.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
> >On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:34:23 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote:
> >>On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:10:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk
> >>(The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >>
> >>>The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates in
> >>>clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them.
> >>
> >>Really? Why? I've never heard this before.
> >
> >I've read it somewhere as part of assembly instructions, it might have
> >been instructions that came with a set of plates and I've heard of
> >others doing it.
> >
> >I'm not absolutely certain why it was considered necessary, though I
> >have a vague idea it's to do with clutch life. I suppose that if the
> >engine were left a while before being started, you'd get plates that
> >were half oiled and maybe you could get a juddery clutch action, but
> >that's only a guess.
> >

> Oh, yes, oil the surfaces of them by all means, but I don't understand
> the need for a prolonged soak of modern friction materials. I suppose if
> you had done the job as part of an engine out rebuild it might be
> important, but as a fix the clutch then immediately see if your fixing
> has worked job I can't see the need.

Can't do any harm, in any event.

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From: platypus on
Pete Fisher wrote:
> In communiqu� <uqeli4hsgcli0r9c952nc5sml8thglqp4l(a)4ax.com>, Champ
> <news(a)champ.org.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:10:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk
>> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>>> The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates
>>> in clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them.
>>
>> Really? Why? I've never heard this before.
>
> Perhaps TOG is thinking of the days of cork insert friction plates? As
> far as I am concerned a quick wipe with an oily rag suffices

Yeah, but you're getting on a bit.

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