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From: The Older Gentleman on 24 Nov 2008 17:14 sweller <sweller(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > Champ wrote: > > > > The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates in > > > clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them. > > > > Really? Why? I've never heard this before. > > Neither have I and I've never done it. > > When we (read: Mike) changed the clutch on the race bike they were just > put in. Oh well. I remember reading somewhere it was advisable and so I've always done it. And guess what? It's always worked ;-) -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Yamaha XTZ660 Tenere Honda CB400F CB250N SH50 chateau dot murray at idnet dot com "What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time and hassle for no tangible benefit."
From: mark on 24 Nov 2008 13:43 In message <6p08ihF5opkvU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Rich B <richard.brookmanNOSPAM(a)THANKSbtinternet.com> writes >TOG(a)Toil typed: >> On 24 Nov, 14:34, Champ <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:10:15 +0000, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >>> (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >>>> The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates >>>> in clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them. >>> >>> Really? Why? I've never heard this before. >> >> I thought it was common knowledge. It allows them to soak up the oil - >> remember they're essentially fibre, and if they're totally dry, the >> clutch may grab. >> >> That said, putting them in dry and then running the engine for a >> short while will probably have the same effect. > >Cork plates, definitely. I can't see why modern fibre plates should >be, but then it's recommended practice for Land Rover Railko bushes as >well, and they would seem to be impervious material. Perhaps it's magic. > It seems the ebc items are cork based... -- Mark Roberts
From: Rusty_Hinge on 24 Nov 2008 17:09 The message <6p08ihF5opkvU1(a)mid.individual.net> from "Rich B" <richard.brookmanNOSPAM(a)THANKSbtinternet.com> contains these words: > Cork plates, definitely. I can't see why modern fibre plates should > be, but > then it's recommended practice for Land Rover Railko bushes as well, and > they would seem to be impervious material. Perhaps it's magic. I think those Lard Roller bushes are sintered phosphor bronze, or similar, and if so, will be very slightly porous. BTW, don't use Hipoy or similar on Oil-Lite bushes - Mk I Concertinas has them in their gearbrokes, Glod knows why - and they un-sintered... -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig
From: Rusty_Hinge on 24 Nov 2008 17:10 The message <ptBIWcGURvKJFwZ6(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> from Pete Fisher <Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> contains these words: > In communiqu� <j8sli41k8kjlu8d533q1j2drrhvg4neipv(a)4ax.com>, Pip Luscher > <pluscher(a)live.invalid.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom > >On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:34:23 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: > >>On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:10:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk > >>(The Older Gentleman) wrote: > >> > >>>The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates in > >>>clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them. > >> > >>Really? Why? I've never heard this before. > > > >I've read it somewhere as part of assembly instructions, it might have > >been instructions that came with a set of plates and I've heard of > >others doing it. > > > >I'm not absolutely certain why it was considered necessary, though I > >have a vague idea it's to do with clutch life. I suppose that if the > >engine were left a while before being started, you'd get plates that > >were half oiled and maybe you could get a juddery clutch action, but > >that's only a guess. > > > Oh, yes, oil the surfaces of them by all means, but I don't understand > the need for a prolonged soak of modern friction materials. I suppose if > you had done the job as part of an engine out rebuild it might be > important, but as a fix the clutch then immediately see if your fixing > has worked job I can't see the need. Can't do any harm, in any event. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig
From: platypus on 24 Nov 2008 18:02
Pete Fisher wrote: > In communiqu� <uqeli4hsgcli0r9c952nc5sml8thglqp4l(a)4ax.com>, Champ > <news(a)champ.org.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:10:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk >> (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >> >>> The very important thing is to remember to soak the friction plates >>> in clean engine oil for an hour or two before you instal them. >> >> Really? Why? I've never heard this before. > > Perhaps TOG is thinking of the days of cork insert friction plates? As > far as I am concerned a quick wipe with an oily rag suffices Yeah, but you're getting on a bit. |