From: G-S on
Moike wrote:
> F Murtz wrote:
>> Brad wrote:
>>> "Moike"<bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b1c13b0$1(a)newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>> : Marty H wrote:
>>> :> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.."<id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>> :>> Jeff R. wrote:
>>> :>>> Still think $12 is steep?
>>> :>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on
>>> cost me
>>> :>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it.
>>> :>>
>>> :>> Nev..
>>> :>> '08 DL1000K8
>>> :>
>>> :> what is a Tachometer worth..?
>>> :>
>>> :> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth?
>>> :>
>>> :> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain
>>> :>
>>> :> mh
>>> :>
>>> : A silly question, perhaps, but why?
>>> :
>>> : The tachos on most modern bikes are digital and ought be at least as
>>> : accurate. Would any slight error make any real difference?.
>>> :
>>> : Moike
>>>
>>>
>>> IPhone has GPS right, GPS gives speed so why tach at all?
>>>
>> Rev counters are used for purposes other than looking pretty on the
>> instrument panel.
> Yes, But I'm struggling to think of a time when I might be tuning the
> motor and be unable to use the tacho on the instrument panel.

I doubt that the bike tacho is accurate enough for tuning carbs with (I
know mine isn't).

> If I needed one, I'd just use the Tach/dwell/multimeter...

My multimeter doesn't have tach/dwell and it would be more expensive to
buy a new one than the app.


G-S
From: G-S on
Kevin Gleeson wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:47:22 -0800 (PST), Marty H <hytram(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 7, 7:37 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>> Marty H wrote:
>>>> On Dec 7, 5:52 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>>> Marty H wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jeff R. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Still think $12 is steep?
>>>>>>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on cost me
>>>>>>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it.
>>>>>>> Nev..
>>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>>>>> what is a Tachometer worth..?
>>>>>> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth?
>>>>>> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain
>>>>> Just about every motor vehicle I've ever owned has come with a
>>>>> tachometer factory fitted. I find it hard to believe an iphone
>>>>> tachometer could be used as anything other than a gimick for a vast
>>>>> majority of the population. If you need one then maybe it is value for
>>>>> you, but I struggle to think of any circumstance when a tachometer app
>>>>> would be of actual non-novelty use.
>>>>> Nev..
>>>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>>> you have never worked on, restored or rebuilt a bike/engine/carby
>>>> then?
>>> No, and neither do the vast majority of the population. The ones who
>>> do, have a tachometer.
>> So the worldwide production of Tachometers must stop now because all
>> the people that will ever need one, replace one etc has dried up?
>>
>> I think the argument that the neither do the vast majority of the
>> population is a little mute, if things always needed the vast
>> majority, very little would ever see final production. All that is
>> need is a market.
>>
>>> What? You don't have a tachometer? What kind
>>> of bike/engine/carby restorer/rebuilder are you?
>> A new one in the market for one
>>
>>>> ever built and played with RC aircraft?
>>> No, and neither do an even more vast majority of the population.
>> again..a mute argument, there is enough people into that hobby to
>> justify a device like this (also refer to my ebay link in my last
>> post)
>>
>> example
>>
>> http://www.rcgroups.com Members: 291,316
>> (the most popular RC I know of)
>>
>> www.advrider.com Inmates: 116,705
>> (the most popular MC forum I know of)
>>
>>> If you need one then maybe it is value for you.
>> correct, another people who could use it
>>
>>>> you are, like some others in this thread are thinking a Tacho is only
>>>> use to change gears
>>> Why would you need a tacho to change gears? Back off the throttle, pull
>>> in the clutch, give the gear lever a kick... nope, no tacho ;)
>> you'll keep :-P
>>
>>
>> mh
>
>
> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy
> end of a trumpet.
>
> </rant>

Or an obsolete word for a person who cannot speak...


G-S
From: Moike on
Marty H wrote:
> On Dec 7, 10:51 pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...(a)imagine-it.com.au>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:47:22 -0800 (PST), Marty H <hyt...(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 7, 7:37 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>> Marty H wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 7, 5:52 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Marty H wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jeff R. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Still think $12 is steep?
>>>>>>>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on cost me
>>>>>>>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it.
>>>>>>>> Nev..
>>>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>>>>>> what is a Tachometer worth..?
>>>>>>> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth?
>>>>>>> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain
>>>>>> Just about every motor vehicle I've ever owned has come with a
>>>>>> tachometer factory fitted. I find it hard to believe an iphone
>>>>>> tachometer could be used as anything other than a gimick for a vast
>>>>>> majority of the population. If you need one then maybe it is value for
>>>>>> you, but I struggle to think of any circumstance when a tachometer app
>>>>>> would be of actual non-novelty use.
>>>>>> Nev..
>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>>>> you have never worked on, restored or rebuilt a bike/engine/carby
>>>>> then?
>>>> No, and neither do the vast majority of the population. The ones who
>>>> do, have a tachometer.
>>> So the worldwide production of Tachometers must stop now because all
>>> the people that will ever need one, replace one etc has dried up?
>>> I think the argument that the neither do the vast majority of the
>>> population is a little mute, if things always needed the vast
>>> majority, very little would ever see final production. All that is
>>> need is a market.
>>>> What? You don't have a tachometer? What kind
>>>> of bike/engine/carby restorer/rebuilder are you?
>>> A new one in the market for one
>>>>> ever built and played with RC aircraft?
>>>> No, and neither do an even more vast majority of the population.
>>> again..a mute argument, there is enough people into that hobby to
>>> justify a device like this (also refer to my ebay link in my last
>>> post)
>>> example
>>> http://www.rcgroups.com Members: 291,316
>>> (the most popular RC I know of)
>>> www.advrider.com Inmates: 116,705
>>> (the most popular MC forum I know of)
>>>> If you need one then maybe it is value for you.
>>> correct, another people who could use it
>>>>> you are, like some others in this thread are thinking a Tacho is only
>>>>> use to change gears
>>>> Why would you need a tacho to change gears? Back off the throttle, pull
>>>> in the clutch, give the gear lever a kick... nope, no tacho ;)
>>> you'll keep :-P
>>> mh
>> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy
>> end of a trumpet.
>>
>> </rant>
>
> I thought it looked wrong..
>
> ta
>
> mh
> (moot...moot..moot...got it)
I knew it was wrong, but in the context, looked right.

"Mute Point": An argument that doesn't say anything.
From: Kevin Gleeson on
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:39:25 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:47:22 -0800 (PST), Marty H<hytram(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 7, 7:37 pm, "Nev.."<id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>> Marty H wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 7, 5:52 pm, "Nev.."<id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Marty H wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.."<id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jeff R. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Still think $12 is steep?
>>>>>>>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on cost me
>>>>>>>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it.
>>>>>>>> Nev..
>>>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>>>>>> what is a Tachometer worth..?
>>>>>>> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth?
>>>>>>> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain
>>>>>> Just about every motor vehicle I've ever owned has come with a
>>>>>> tachometer factory fitted. I find it hard to believe an iphone
>>>>>> tachometer could be used as anything other than a gimick for a vast
>>>>>> majority of the population. If you need one then maybe it is value for
>>>>>> you, but I struggle to think of any circumstance when a tachometer app
>>>>>> would be of actual non-novelty use.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nev..
>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8
>>>>
>>>>> you have never worked on, restored or rebuilt a bike/engine/carby
>>>>> then?
>>>>
>>>> No, and neither do the vast majority of the population. The ones who
>>>> do, have a tachometer.
>>>
>>> So the worldwide production of Tachometers must stop now because all
>>> the people that will ever need one, replace one etc has dried up?
>>>
>>> I think the argument that the neither do the vast majority of the
>>> population is a little mute, if things always needed the vast
>>> majority, very little would ever see final production. All that is
>>> need is a market.
>>>
>>>> What? You don't have a tachometer? What kind
>>>> of bike/engine/carby restorer/rebuilder are you?
>>>
>>> A new one in the market for one
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ever built and played with RC aircraft?
>>>>
>>>> No, and neither do an even more vast majority of the population.
>>>
>>> again..a mute argument, there is enough people into that hobby to
>>> justify a device like this (also refer to my ebay link in my last
>>> post)
>>>
>>> example
>>>
>>> http://www.rcgroups.com Members: 291,316
>>> (the most popular RC I know of)
>>>
>>> www.advrider.com Inmates: 116,705
>>> (the most popular MC forum I know of)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you need one then maybe it is value for you.
>>>
>>> correct, another people who could use it
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> you are, like some others in this thread are thinking a Tacho is only
>>>>> use to change gears
>>>>
>>>> Why would you need a tacho to change gears? Back off the throttle, pull
>>>> in the clutch, give the gear lever a kick... nope, no tacho ;)
>>>
>>> you'll keep :-P
>>>
>>>
>>> mh
>>
>>
>> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy
>> end of a trumpet.
>
> Or someone with no tongue

Be hard to play the trumpet with no tongue . . .
From: Kevin Gleeson on
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:16:42 +1100, Lee <tardis42(a)gmail.com.remove>
wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:51:32 +1100, Kevin Gleeson
><kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy
>> end of a trumpet.
>>
>> </rant>
>
><pedant>
>The blunt end of a trumpet, surely?
></pedant>

It's the poimty end if your ear is right next to it.
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