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From: Nev.. on 7 Dec 2009 20:59 On Dec 7, 10:47 pm, Marty H <hyt...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 7, 7:37 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Marty H wrote: > > > On Dec 7, 5:52 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: > > >> Marty H wrote: > > >>> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: > > >>>> Jeff R. wrote: > > >>>>> Still think $12 is steep? > > >>>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on cost me > > >>>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it. > > >>>> Nev.. > > >>>> '08 DL1000K8 > > >>> what is a Tachometer worth..? > > >>> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth? > > >>> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain > > >> Just about every motor vehicle I've ever owned has come with a > > >> tachometer factory fitted. I find it hard to believe an iphone > > >> tachometer could be used as anything other than a gimick for a vast > > >> majority of the population. If you need one then maybe it is value for > > >> you, but I struggle to think of any circumstance when a tachometer app > > >> would be of actual non-novelty use. > > > >> Nev.. > > >> '08 DL1000K8 > > > > you have never worked on, restored or rebuilt a bike/engine/carby > > > then? > > > No, and neither do the vast majority of the population. The ones who > > do, have a tachometer. > > So the worldwide production of Tachometers must stop now because all > the people that will ever need one, replace one etc has dried up? No, you need to reread what I have written above, because I don't think I said what you think I said. I never said that noone would need a tacho. I'm sure there are thousands of people every day who have the need to buy such a piece of equipment. But the majority of them will buy a quality instrument. By quality I mean an instrument which actually measures the engine speed, rather than an iphone app which guesses it based on audible cues (which may or may not originate from the engine who's speed is being measured), and even invites the user to contribute their own guesses so that it can guess the engine speed more accurately. I would call that a novelty. I say that relative to other iphone apps, and especially novelty apps, $12 is too expensive. If it was .99c I would buy it in a flash and measure the engine speed of everything I could, but not because it was a useful pursuit... > www.advrider.com Inmates: 116,705 > (the most popular MC forum I know of) and I suspect 116,605 of them have motorcycles which are already equipped with a tachometer which is far more accurate and reliable than any iphone app. Why would they need another one? Nev..
From: Lee on 7 Dec 2009 22:30 On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:55:08 +1100, Kevin Gleeson <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:16:42 +1100, Lee <tardis42(a)gmail.com.remove> > wrote: > >> On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:51:32 +1100, Kevin Gleeson >> <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy >>> end of a trumpet. >>> >>> </rant> >> >> <pedant> >> The blunt end of a trumpet, surely? >> </pedant> > > It's the poimty end if your ear is right next to it. a fair point -- Lee ;-)
From: CrazyCam on 8 Dec 2009 00:49 Nev.. wrote: <snip> > No, you need to reread what I have written above, because I don't > think I said what you think I said. I never said that noone would > need a tacho. I'm sure there are thousands of people every day who > have the need to buy such a piece of equipment. But the majority of > them will buy a quality instrument. By quality I mean an instrument > which actually measures the engine speed, rather than an iphone app > which guesses it based on audible cues (which may or may not originate > from the engine who's speed is being measured), and even invites the > user to contribute their own guesses so that it can guess the engine > speed more accurately. I would call that a novelty. I say that > relative to other iphone apps, and especially novelty apps, $12 is too > expensive. If it was .99c I would buy it in a flash and measure the > engine speed of everything I could, but not because it was a useful > pursuit... The folk who didn't buy I_Am_Rich, either because they couldn't afford it, or missed the brief window of opportunity, might well buy a tachometer app instead. regards, CrazyCam
From: Nev.. on 8 Dec 2009 03:52 G-S wrote: > Kevin Gleeson wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:47:22 -0800 (PST), Marty H <hytram(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Dec 7, 7:37 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>> Marty H wrote: >>>>> On Dec 7, 5:52 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>>> Marty H wrote: >>>>>>> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Jeff R. wrote: >>>>>>>>> Still think $12 is steep? >>>>>>>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on >>>>>>>> cost me >>>>>>>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it. >>>>>>>> Nev.. >>>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8 >>>>>>> what is a Tachometer worth..? >>>>>>> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth? >>>>>>> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain >>>>>> Just about every motor vehicle I've ever owned has come with a >>>>>> tachometer factory fitted. I find it hard to believe an iphone >>>>>> tachometer could be used as anything other than a gimick for a vast >>>>>> majority of the population. If you need one then maybe it is >>>>>> value for >>>>>> you, but I struggle to think of any circumstance when a tachometer >>>>>> app >>>>>> would be of actual non-novelty use. >>>>>> Nev.. >>>>>> '08 DL1000K8 >>>>> you have never worked on, restored or rebuilt a bike/engine/carby >>>>> then? >>>> No, and neither do the vast majority of the population. The ones who >>>> do, have a tachometer. >>> So the worldwide production of Tachometers must stop now because all >>> the people that will ever need one, replace one etc has dried up? >>> >>> I think the argument that the neither do the vast majority of the >>> population is a little mute, if things always needed the vast >>> majority, very little would ever see final production. All that is >>> need is a market. >>> >>>> What? You don't have a tachometer? What kind >>>> of bike/engine/carby restorer/rebuilder are you? >>> A new one in the market for one >>> >>>>> ever built and played with RC aircraft? >>>> No, and neither do an even more vast majority of the population. >>> again..a mute argument, there is enough people into that hobby to >>> justify a device like this (also refer to my ebay link in my last >>> post) >>> >>> example >>> >>> http://www.rcgroups.com Members: 291,316 >>> (the most popular RC I know of) >>> >>> www.advrider.com Inmates: 116,705 >>> (the most popular MC forum I know of) >>> >>>> If you need one then maybe it is value for you. >>> correct, another people who could use it >>> >>>>> you are, like some others in this thread are thinking a Tacho is only >>>>> use to change gears >>>> Why would you need a tacho to change gears? Back off the throttle, >>>> pull >>>> in the clutch, give the gear lever a kick... nope, no tacho ;) >>> you'll keep :-P >>> >>> >>> mh >> >> >> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy >> end of a trumpet. >> >> </rant> > > Or an obsolete word for a person who cannot speak... what? obsolete? what do we call them now? Dumb? Nev.. '08 DL1000K8
From: G-S on 8 Dec 2009 15:00
Nev.. wrote: > G-S wrote: >> Kevin Gleeson wrote: >>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:47:22 -0800 (PST), Marty H <hytram(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Dec 7, 7:37 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>> Marty H wrote: >>>>>> On Dec 7, 5:52 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Marty H wrote: >>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 8:22 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Jeff R. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Still think $12 is steep? >>>>>>>>> Sure is. I think the most expensive app I have spent money on >>>>>>>>> cost me >>>>>>>>> $8.99, but that one actually saves me money every time I use it. >>>>>>>>> Nev.. >>>>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8 >>>>>>>> what is a Tachometer worth..? >>>>>>>> or, what is a audible Tachometer worth? >>>>>>>> I need one, so "if" I had a iPhone/iTouch, $12 would be a bargain >>>>>>> Just about every motor vehicle I've ever owned has come with a >>>>>>> tachometer factory fitted. I find it hard to believe an iphone >>>>>>> tachometer could be used as anything other than a gimick for a vast >>>>>>> majority of the population. If you need one then maybe it is >>>>>>> value for >>>>>>> you, but I struggle to think of any circumstance when a >>>>>>> tachometer app >>>>>>> would be of actual non-novelty use. >>>>>>> Nev.. >>>>>>> '08 DL1000K8 >>>>>> you have never worked on, restored or rebuilt a bike/engine/carby >>>>>> then? >>>>> No, and neither do the vast majority of the population. The ones who >>>>> do, have a tachometer. >>>> So the worldwide production of Tachometers must stop now because all >>>> the people that will ever need one, replace one etc has dried up? >>>> >>>> I think the argument that the neither do the vast majority of the >>>> population is a little mute, if things always needed the vast >>>> majority, very little would ever see final production. All that is >>>> need is a market. >>>> >>>>> What? You don't have a tachometer? What kind >>>>> of bike/engine/carby restorer/rebuilder are you? >>>> A new one in the market for one >>>> >>>>>> ever built and played with RC aircraft? >>>>> No, and neither do an even more vast majority of the population. >>>> again..a mute argument, there is enough people into that hobby to >>>> justify a device like this (also refer to my ebay link in my last >>>> post) >>>> >>>> example >>>> >>>> http://www.rcgroups.com Members: 291,316 >>>> (the most popular RC I know of) >>>> >>>> www.advrider.com Inmates: 116,705 >>>> (the most popular MC forum I know of) >>>> >>>>> If you need one then maybe it is value for you. >>>> correct, another people who could use it >>>> >>>>>> you are, like some others in this thread are thinking a Tacho is only >>>>>> use to change gears >>>>> Why would you need a tacho to change gears? Back off the throttle, >>>>> pull >>>>> in the clutch, give the gear lever a kick... nope, no tacho ;) >>>> you'll keep :-P >>>> >>>> >>>> mh >>> >>> >>> Moot. The word is moot. A mute is something you shove up the pointy >>> end of a trumpet. >>> >>> </rant> >> >> Or an obsolete word for a person who cannot speak... > > what? obsolete? what do we call them now? Dumb? > > Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8 Killfiled :) G-S |