From: TimC on
On 2009-11-22, F Murtz (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> Dunno why people think this "licence" thing is going to solve any
>> problems. It isn't as if it has before.
>>
> The only reason motorists push for bicycle licensing is pushbikes on
> main roads in peak hour and a few inconsiderate city couriers. children
> are not a problem, not many children are silly enough to use main roads
> in peak. Bicycles are not a problem on suburban streets.

Oddly enough, I've not been a problem on main roads in peak hour
either, as I filter through and overtake the majority of traffic.
People might *perceive* that I hold them up an extra 10 seconds, but
once I've filtered through past them at the next parking lot, they'll
still be stuck behind the same car they were stuck behind 10 minutes
ago.

'course, I have gotten rid of that problem these days. Some mornings
I don't see any traffic in an hour and a half, but a few sleepy 'roos.

--
TimC
Actually, I was most impressed when I looked up into the London sky and saw a
star through all the light pollution. A few of us checked a few astronomy
references to try and identify it, and we're reasonably confident that it was
Sol. -- Peter Corlett in ASR
From: Lars Chance on
CrazyCam wrote:
> Lars Chance wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Wouldn't it be wonderful to think that someone in Govco actually
>> understands enough about two-wheelers to know what the "ped" in moped
>> means!
>
> <Cough> The ped bit fell by the wayside many years ago.
>
Agreed. They're all just "scooters" not "mopeds and scooters" (which I
think was Hammo's point).

--
Elsie.
From: Lars Chance on
Lars Chance wrote:
> CrazyCam wrote:
>> Lars Chance wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Wouldn't it be wonderful to think that someone in Govco actually
>>> understands enough about two-wheelers to know what the "ped" in moped
>>> means!
>>
>> <Cough> The ped bit fell by the wayside many years ago.
>>
> Agreed. They're all just "scooters" not "mopeds and scooters" (which I
> think was Hammo's point).
>
Oops; no it wasn't. Hammo's point was that there *ARE* legitimate
motor/pedal vehicles that he might've been referring to.

--
Elsie.
From: alx on
On Nov 22, 8:51 pm, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:15:45 -0800 (PST)
>
> alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Licencing bicycle riders would be a better money earner for the NSW
> > guvvament.
>
> DOubt it.
>
> Because you have to decide whether you licence children and if so how
> much for.
>
> Then you have to charge enough to cover the admin costs.  Which is
> quite a lot.
>
> THen you have to work out how you are going to enforce it.
>
> Dunno why people think this "licence" thing is going to solve any
> problems.  It isn't as if it has before.
>
> Zebee

You have set out a few sensible arguments. This would far exceed the
grasp of the NSW guvvament people. I would never dare suggest that
it's a good idea or a revenue positive initiative.


From: alx on
On Nov 22, 9:46 pm, F Murtz <hagg...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> > In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:15:45 -0800 (PST)
> > alx<alxr...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >> Licencing bicycle riders would be a better money earner for the NSW
> >> guvvament.
>
> > DOubt it.
>
> > Because you have to decide whether you licence children and if so how
> > much for.
>
> > Then you have to charge enough to cover the admin costs.  Which is
> > quite a lot.
>
> > THen you have to work out how you are going to enforce it.
>
> > Dunno why people think this "licence" thing is going to solve any
> > problems.  It isn't as if it has before.
>
> > Zebee
>
> The only reason motorists push for bicycle licensing is pushbikes on
> main roads in peak hour and a few inconsiderate city couriers. children
> are not a problem, not many children are silly enough to use main roads
> in peak. Bicycles are not a problem on suburban streets.

But look at the stats! More than double increase! OMG think of the
children etc etc etc if it saves just one life....The guvvament must
do something about this carnage on the road etc etc.
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