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From: hippo on 30 Nov 2009 22:51 alx wrote: > > On Dec 1, 10:46�am, atec7 7 <"atec 77"@hotmail.com> wrote: > > alx wrote: > > > On Dec 1, 1:34 am, atec7 7 <"atec 77"@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> alx wrote: > > >>> On Nov 27, 9:11 am, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...(a)imagine-it.com.au> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> Read my answers. > > >>>> I do believe everyone should be licenced. > > >>> I only believe that competent people should be licenced. > > >> Now that's a can of worms in it's self by the methodology involved in > > >> determination > > >> � How would you handle it ? > > > > > For a start, accepting the concept that not everyone should be > > > licenced. > > > > SO in fact you can't provide a suitable solution and grasp at piecemeal > > straws > > What are you on about? > > EVERYONE is capable of using the roads safely? > > A car driver is capable of also driving a semi-trailer? > > A 17 year old is capable of driving a passenger bus? > > Well, if a 15 yo is, why not? This was found in www.wayodd.com/ Teenager Steals Bus, Picks Up Passengers, And Pockets The Cash A 15-year-old boy was arrested after he stole a bus and began driving a route and collecting fares from passengers along a public transit route on Saturday. Authorities said the boy was arrested during incident. The teenager, Ritchie Calvin Davis, drove the bus from the Central Florida Fairgrounds in Orlando, where it was pending an auction sale. The bus is owned by Central Florida Transportation Agency. Davis told the deputies who arrested him at the scene: "I drove that bus better than most of the LYNX drivers could," adding, "There isn't a scratch on it. I know how to start it, drive it, lower it, raise it." The 15-year-old observed the required speeds and all the stops along the route. One of the passengers, however, suspicious Davis' boyish looks and dialed 911. The teenager had two passengers on board when deputies pulled him over; 12 miles from his departure point. The teenager has since been charged with auto theft and driving without a license. Davis committed a similar offense back in January. He stole a tour bus and drove passengers around; again, without incident. He was still on probation from the January incident when he was arrested over the weekend. -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: Kevin Gleeson on 1 Dec 2009 00:20 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 03:51:00 +0000 (UTC), am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (hippo) wrote: >alx wrote: >> >> On Dec 1, 10:46�am, atec7 7 <"atec 77"@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > alx wrote: >> > > On Dec 1, 1:34 am, atec7 7 <"atec 77"@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> alx wrote: >> > >>> On Nov 27, 9:11 am, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...(a)imagine-it.com.au> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>>> Read my answers. >> > >>>> I do believe everyone should be licenced. >> > >>> I only believe that competent people should be licenced. >> > >> Now that's a can of worms in it's self by the methodology involved in >> > >> determination >> > >> � How would you handle it ? >> > >> > > For a start, accepting the concept that not everyone should be >> > > licenced. >> > >> > SO in fact you can't provide a suitable solution and grasp at piecemeal >> > straws >> >> What are you on about? >> >> EVERYONE is capable of using the roads safely? >> >> A car driver is capable of also driving a semi-trailer? >> >> A 17 year old is capable of driving a passenger bus? >> >> > >Well, if a 15 yo is, why not? This was found in www.wayodd.com/ > >Teenager Steals Bus, Picks Up Passengers, And Pockets The Cash > >A 15-year-old boy was arrested after he stole a bus and began driving a >route and collecting fares from passengers along a public transit route on >Saturday. Authorities said the boy was arrested during incident. > >The teenager, Ritchie Calvin Davis, drove the bus from the Central Florida >Fairgrounds in Orlando, where it was pending an auction sale. The bus is >owned by Central Florida Transportation Agency. > >Davis told the deputies who arrested him at the scene: "I drove that bus >better than most of the LYNX drivers could," adding, "There isn't a >scratch on it. I know how to start it, drive it, lower it, raise it." > >The 15-year-old observed the required speeds and all the stops along the >route. One of the passengers, however, suspicious Davis' boyish looks and >dialed 911. The teenager had two passengers on board when deputies pulled >him over; 12 miles from his departure point. > >The teenager has since been charged with auto theft and driving without a >license. > >Davis committed a similar offense back in January. He stole a tour bus and >drove passengers around; again, without incident. He was still on >probation from the January incident when he was arrested over the weekend. Love it. Now that's initiative. I was licenced to fly aircraft before I was licenced to drive on the road. I recall getting my certification on a Cherokee Six and had to have six passengers on board so trooped all my schoolmates along for a few laps around Lonny airport. Seemed crazy that we all had to be driven there by parents, but it was OK for my to take up an aircraft in a pretty busy jet airport. (And if you think Lonny isn't busy, don't just take passenger flights into account, where do you think all our freight comes in from? Back then Ipec were running freight flights at one hell of a rate, it seems to be more sea-based now though).
From: G-S on 2 Dec 2009 03:16 alx wrote: > > A car driver is capable of also driving a semi-trailer? I'm a car driver, I can drive a semi-trailer. > A 17 year old is capable of driving a passenger bus? I'm not 17 years old (and haven't been for a long time), but yes I could drive a passenger bus at the age of 17. I admit I'd only driven smaller (up to 30 seat) ones at that point. G-S
From: hippo on 2 Dec 2009 06:56 G-S wrote: > > alx wrote: > > > > A car driver is capable of also driving a semi-trailer? > > I'm a car driver, I can drive a semi-trailer. > > > A 17 year old is capable of driving a passenger bus? > > I'm not 17 years old (and haven't been for a long time), but yes I could > drive a passenger bus at the age of 17. > > I admit I'd only driven smaller (up to 30 seat) ones at that point. > > > G-S > > I think my friend Lyn was going on for 9 the first time she drove a semi-trailer cattle truck on her Dad's farm in SA. -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: Fulliautomatix on 2 Dec 2009 07:05
G-S wrote: > alx wrote: > >> >> A car driver is capable of also driving a semi-trailer? > > > I'm a car driver, I can drive a semi-trailer. While I don't practice as a truckie, I still hold a HC licence...and I've never done a formal licence test I've had several conversations in the last while or two with people my age (42...) or a bit older about 'how you got your licence' and those who grew up in the country usually report something like; I went to see the copper and he said 'I've seen you around - here you go' That was my experience...bike, car, heavy combination Recently I went to an 'Advanced Roadcraft' course on the motorbicycle...my first training after 25 years of road riding / driving Turned out to be an excuse to ride around for a bit on the racetrack |