From: alx on
On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>
> For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to
> allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear
> changing mechanism makes any difference.
>
>         regards,
>                 CrazyCam

Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can
do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence.

The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or
manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months.
From: alx on
On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Lars Chance wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Hmmm..  OK so NSW *does* have a moped vehicle-classification; just that
> > they then don't offer any different licencing or registration on that
> > classification, instead making users pay the same and use the same
> > licences as for motorcycles.
>
> OK, they have a document acknowledging the existence of the class, but,
> in effect, lump them in with any other motorbike or scooter.  :-(
>
> A difference that makes no difference...... right.
>
> I hadn't known that.
>
>  > (The cynic in me says that the NSW classification exists *solely* to
>  > stop people using "mopeds" to do motorcycle licence tests.)
>
> When the pre-learners course was first established, the RTA chose, and
> owned, the fleet of bikes used by the various schools running the
> courses. There was usually at least one 49cc automatic scooter at each
> school.
>
> I dunno when that situation ceased.
>
> For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to
> allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear
> changing mechanism makes any difference.
>
>         regards,
>                 CrazyCam

Couldnt get to the other link but this from the main RTA page (left
menu):-
"
Power-assisted pedal cycles discussion paper

The Roads and Traffic Authority (RTA) is proposing a new definition
for power-assisted pedal cycles through a discussion paper. This
addresses the need for a revised standard and description of the
characteristics of a power-assisted pedal cycle that is exempt from
registration without creating a new category of vehicle.

This paper is the latest step of a series of initiatives to develop a
national strategy in Australia to apply consistent design standards
and registration requirements for power-assisted pedal cycles (PAPCs).
A new definition is recommended along with the appropriate
justification and analysis with the emphasis on road safety.
Involving the community

A discussion paper has been prepared and is the basis for a nation-
wide consultation process aimed at seeking stakeholder views on the
proposed new definition for a power-assisted pedal cycle.
How to give feedback

The submission period on this issue closed on 30 June 2009.

"

From: alx on
On Nov 24, 8:57 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to
> > allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear
> > changing mechanism makes any difference.
>
> >         regards,
> >                 CrazyCam
>
> Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can
> do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence.
>
> The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or
> manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months.

And they won't (or shouldn't) allow you to do the test on a non-LAMS
bike.
From: CrazyCam on
alx wrote:
> On Nov 24, 8:57 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to
>>> allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear
>>> changing mechanism makes any difference.
>>> regards,
>>> CrazyCam
>> Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can
>> do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence.
>>
>> The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or
>> manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months.
>
> And they won't (or shouldn't) allow you to do the test on a non-LAMS
> bike.

That's what I meant by a legal bike.

regards,
CrazyCam
From: alx on
On Nov 24, 10:18 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> alx wrote:
> > On Nov 24, 8:57 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >>> For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to
> >>> allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear
> >>> changing mechanism makes any difference.
> >>>         regards,
> >>>                 CrazyCam
> >> Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can
> >> do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence.
>
> >> The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or
> >> manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months.
>
> > And they won't (or shouldn't) allow you to do the test on a non-LAMS
> > bike.
>
> That's what I meant by a legal bike.
>
>         regards,
>                 CrazyCam

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