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From: alx on 23 Nov 2009 16:57 On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to > allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear > changing mechanism makes any difference. > > regards, > CrazyCam Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence. The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months.
From: alx on 23 Nov 2009 17:10 On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Lars Chance wrote: > > <snip> > > > Hmmm.. OK so NSW *does* have a moped vehicle-classification; just that > > they then don't offer any different licencing or registration on that > > classification, instead making users pay the same and use the same > > licences as for motorcycles. > > OK, they have a document acknowledging the existence of the class, but, > in effect, lump them in with any other motorbike or scooter. :-( > > A difference that makes no difference...... right. > > I hadn't known that. > > > (The cynic in me says that the NSW classification exists *solely* to > > stop people using "mopeds" to do motorcycle licence tests.) > > When the pre-learners course was first established, the RTA chose, and > owned, the fleet of bikes used by the various schools running the > courses. There was usually at least one 49cc automatic scooter at each > school. > > I dunno when that situation ceased. > > For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to > allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear > changing mechanism makes any difference. > > regards, > CrazyCam Couldnt get to the other link but this from the main RTA page (left menu):- " Power-assisted pedal cycles discussion paper The Roads and Traffic Authority (RTA) is proposing a new definition for power-assisted pedal cycles through a discussion paper. This addresses the need for a revised standard and description of the characteristics of a power-assisted pedal cycle that is exempt from registration without creating a new category of vehicle. This paper is the latest step of a series of initiatives to develop a national strategy in Australia to apply consistent design standards and registration requirements for power-assisted pedal cycles (PAPCs). A new definition is recommended along with the appropriate justification and analysis with the emphasis on road safety. Involving the community A discussion paper has been prepared and is the basis for a nation- wide consultation process aimed at seeking stakeholder views on the proposed new definition for a power-assisted pedal cycle. How to give feedback The submission period on this issue closed on 30 June 2009. "
From: alx on 23 Nov 2009 17:47 On Nov 24, 8:57 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to > > allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear > > changing mechanism makes any difference. > > > regards, > > CrazyCam > > Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can > do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence. > > The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or > manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months. And they won't (or shouldn't) allow you to do the test on a non-LAMS bike.
From: CrazyCam on 23 Nov 2009 18:18 alx wrote: > On Nov 24, 8:57 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> >> >>> For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to >>> allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear >>> changing mechanism makes any difference. >>> regards, >>> CrazyCam >> Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can >> do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence. >> >> The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or >> manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months. > > And they won't (or shouldn't) allow you to do the test on a non-LAMS > bike. That's what I meant by a legal bike. regards, CrazyCam
From: alx on 23 Nov 2009 18:38
On Nov 24, 10:18 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > alx wrote: > > On Nov 24, 8:57 am, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 24, 7:55 am, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > >>> For the MOST, provided it is a legal and roadworthy bike, they have to > >>> allow folk to be tested on whatever they ride up on. Only the gear > >>> changing mechanism makes any difference. > >>> regards, > >>> CrazyCam > >> Bizarrely, provided you do the pre-learners on a manual bike, you can > >> do the MOST on a scooter and still score a manual licence. > > >> The pre-learners qualification determines the licence type (auto or > >> manual)...unless that's changed in the last few months. > > > And they won't (or shouldn't) allow you to do the test on a non-LAMS > > bike. > > That's what I meant by a legal bike. > > regards, > CrazyCam Priceless moments...turning up to do MOST on a Rocket 3 |