penetrating oils tested
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From: Zebee Johnstone on 15 Apr 2010 18:45 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN] Fw: Penetrating Oil Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:04:22 +0200 From: Guy <guy.hockley(a)skynet.be> Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> To: <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> Subject: [MHml] Penetrating Oil > But I think most will excuse the bandwidth given the value of the > information and the fact that we _all_ use the stuff ..... assuming always > that its true > ------------------------------------------------------- > Penetrating Oils Compared > > Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break > out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective > test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the > torque > required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" > environment. > > Penetrating oil ..... Average load > > None ..................... 516 pounds > > WD-40 .................. 238 pounds > > PB Blaster ..............214 pounds > > Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds > > Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds > > ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds > > The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic > transmission fluid and acetone. **** See addendum below *** > > Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this > one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and > all now > use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about > as > good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. > **** Addendum: From: Michael Moore <mmoore(a)eurospares.com> Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> References: <D9ED31AC4E3E4E4C9B2079C298E85B1A(a)vardo> FWIW, "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in the magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of power steering fluid -- not ATF." cheers, Michael
From: Deevo on 17 Apr 2010 08:24 "Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:slrnhsf5lc.9en.zebeej(a)gmail.com... > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN] Fw: Penetrating Oil > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:04:22 +0200 > From: Guy <guy.hockley(a)skynet.be> > Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List > <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> > To: <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> > > > > Subject: [MHml] Penetrating Oil > > > But I think most will excuse the bandwidth given the value of the > > information and the fact that we _all_ use the stuff ..... assuming > always > > that its true > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Penetrating Oils Compared > > > > Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break > > out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a > subjective > > test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the > > torque > > required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" > > environment. > > > > Penetrating oil ..... Average load > > > > None ..................... 516 pounds > > > > WD-40 .................. 238 pounds > > > > PB Blaster ..............214 pounds > > > > Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds > > > > Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds > > > > ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds > > > > The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic > > transmission fluid and acetone. **** See addendum below *** > > > > Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this > > one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and > > all now > > use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is > about > > as > > good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. > > > > > > **** Addendum: > > From: Michael Moore <mmoore(a)eurospares.com> > Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List > <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> > To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-design(a)micapeak.com> > References: <D9ED31AC4E3E4E4C9B2079C298E85B1A(a)vardo> > > FWIW, Interesting. I wonder why the more commonly known products in this country were missing from the list. I would like to see how CRC, Inox and RP7 compared. Particularly Inox which has a good reputation amont the workshops around my area. > "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix > -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in > the > magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of > power steering fluid -- not ATF." Depends on the type. Both products are types of hydraulic oils and many manufacturers actually use ATF in their power steering systems. -- Deevo Geraldton Western Australia
From: theo on 17 Apr 2010 08:47 On Apr 16, 6:45 am, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Michael Moore <mmo...(a)eurospares.com> > Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List > <mc-chassis-des...(a)micapeak.com> > To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-des...(a)micapeak.com> > References: <D9ED31AC4E3E4E4C9B2079C298E85B1A(a)vardo> > > FWIW, > > "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix > -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in > the > magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of > power steering fluid -- not ATF." There are two types of ATF, not to be mixed or interchanged. ATF type A is, i'm told, often used as Power steering fluid. http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/306.cfm Theo
From: ross_w on 18 Apr 2010 18:43 On Apr 17, 10:47 pm, theo <theodo...(a)bigpond.com.au> wrote: > On Apr 16, 6:45 am, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Michael Moore <mmo...(a)eurospares.com> > > Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List > > <mc-chassis-des...(a)micapeak.com> > > To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-des...(a)micapeak.com> > > References: <D9ED31AC4E3E4E4C9B2079C298E85B1A(a)vardo> > > > FWIW, > > > "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix > > -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in > > the > > magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of > > power steering fluid -- not ATF." > > There are two types of ATF, not to be mixed or interchanged. ATF type > A is, i'm told, often used as Power steering fluid. > > http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/306.cfm > > Theo ATF is easy enough to get, but try buying acetone without being put on some terrorist watch list.
From: Marty H on 18 Apr 2010 20:11
On Apr 19, 8:43 am, ross_w <rwonder...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 10:47 pm, theo <theodo...(a)bigpond.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 16, 6:45 am, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Michael Moore <mmo...(a)eurospares.com> > > > Reply-To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List > > > <mc-chassis-des...(a)micapeak.com> > > > To: MC-CHASSIS-DESIGN Mailing List <mc-chassis-des...(a)micapeak.com> > > > References: <D9ED31AC4E3E4E4C9B2079C298E85B1A(a)vardo> > > > > FWIW, > > > > "However, there was some confusion. The author said ATF-Acetone mix > > > -- but in reality it was power steering fluid. In fact, the picture in > > > the > > > magazine which displayed all the products actually shows a bottle of > > > power steering fluid -- not ATF." > > > There are two types of ATF, not to be mixed or interchanged. ATF type > > A is, i'm told, often used as Power steering fluid. > > >http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/306.cfm > > > Theo > > ATF is easy enough to get, but try buying acetone without being put on > some terrorist watch list. bunnings.. no problems mh |