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From: BrianNZ on 6 Oct 2009 18:05 JB wrote: > "BrianNZ" <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message > news:4acba9b9$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz... >> Tim M. wrote: >>> On Oct 6, 3:50 pm, "Scraggy" <scra...(a)abuseisgoodforyou.org.be> wrote: >>>> Vito wrote: >>>>> You must be a RUB. Several kids brought guns to school daily when I >>>>> was in 3rd and 4th grades in American Fork, UT. Didn't see that >>>>> again until High School in Compton, CA. >>>> Yes, our papers often have stories about kids taking guns to school in >>>> the >>>> US... >>> Yes, it is hugely dangerous and an almost completely uncivilized >>> wilderness. You would be well advised not to ever dare venturing over >>> here. You could very well be killed. You have been warned. >> >> Nice! :) >> >> Pomgolians can't be trusted with firearms. They rolled over and gave >> theirs to the govt........ > > Just tell me what sort of choice did we get then eh? Hide them under the bed > and hope noone would notice or something? The police know just what you own > and where you keep it (these are conditions of the firearms certificate in > the UK). How are you meant to keep oyur guns when the govt change the law in > a totally arbitrary fashion as a knee jerk reaction to some looney running > amok with an AK? You put forward an excellent case as to why the US citizens should be paranoid about their gun rights being stripped away. Luckily for them, they have a constitution to fall back on. Registration always leads to confiscation?....a familiar call for most firearms owners. We are vetted at when we go for our firearms licence....once we are classed as 'fit and proper' people, we can get as many guns as we need. They are not required to be registered to us. When buying a gun from a dealer, they record the make serial # and my firearms licence details.If it's mail order, we need to get a procurement form signed by the local arms officer (police). When buying from another shooter, all I need to do is show him my licence. The choice you had was 'Hobson's choice'. :( Unless you you were prepared to become a criminal.....luckily for the politicians, they read the people correctly and instead of an armed uprising, they got your guns. At least you get to feel safer 'cos there are less guns in the hands of honest citizens?, while the crims still have theirs.......<sarcasm intended> > I was a competitive practical pistol/long range pistol shooter & homeloader > for >14yrs and enjoyed every minute of it. Now I have to travel to a > friend's range in switzerland to enjoy my sport. > Just enjoy yours while you can. > JB > I read that the English Olympic pistol teams had to travel to France to practice? It sucks that you have had to change your way of life for a 'knee jerk reaction' by your politicians and looking at the way the UN wants the guns out of ALL citizens hands, those laws could well be creeping this way. Have the laws encroached on your re-loading as well? Are there forests/conservation areas where you could go shooting in England? Or do the upper crust own all those sort of forests? Down here the 'Dept. of Conservation' issue (free) hunting permits for govt. lands.
From: Schiffner on 6 Oct 2009 23:17 On Oct 6, 3:24 pm, "JB" <j...(a)nospam.net> wrote: > "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message > > news:4acba9b9$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz... > > > > > > > Tim M. wrote: > >> On Oct 6, 3:50 pm, "Scraggy" <scra...(a)abuseisgoodforyou.org.be> wrote: > >>> Vito wrote: > >>>> You must be a RUB. Several kids brought guns to school daily when I > >>>> was in 3rd and 4th grades in American Fork, UT. Didn't see that > >>>> again until High School in Compton, CA. > >>> Yes, our papers often have stories about kids taking guns to school in > >>> the > >>> US... > > >> Yes, it is hugely dangerous and an almost completely uncivilized > >> wilderness. You would be well advised not to ever dare venturing over > >> here. You could very well be killed. You have been warned. > > > Nice! :) > > > Pomgolians can't be trusted with firearms. They rolled over and gave > > theirs to the govt........ > > Just tell me what sort of choice did we get then eh? Hide them under the bed > and hope noone would notice or something? The police know just what you own > and where you keep it (these are conditions of the firearms certificate in > the UK). How are you meant to keep oyur guns when the govt change the law in > a totally arbitrary fashion as a knee jerk reaction to some looney running > amok with an AK? > I was a competitive practical pistol/long range pistol shooter & homeloader > for >14yrs and enjoyed every minute of it. Now I have to travel to a > friend's range in switzerland to enjoy my sport. > Just enjoy yours while you can. > JB- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - See there's the thing. My guns are not registered with anyone (though they were registered with the military so I could shoot at thier ranges, beer cup) As far as the men with funny hats are concerned I own no guns and my black powder firearms are not considered fire arms. <boggle> Which is odd as I can reload the pistol as fast as any other revolver not using moon clips or speed loaders. I also have as much ftlbs per sqin as most revovlers available. 8^)
From: Tim M. on 7 Oct 2009 09:59 On Oct 6, 6:25 pm, BrianNZ <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote: > I think it's criminal that honest law abiding folk get given the shite > that should have landed on the bad guys. Again, it's easier for the > politicians to come down on the honest folk than actually catch the > criminals. And a lot less dangerous for the peace officers, too. Which leads to such things as thousands of people being cited for "reckless driving" for travelling at 81mph on a 65mph interstate highway that was designed to be safe at 70mph .... in a 1950's floating boat with bias ply tires, drum brakes, and recirculating ball steering ... while someone riding their motorcycle (on-topic content) at triple digit speeds in rush hour traffic is ignored because it would be dangerous to chase them down.
From: Ace on 7 Oct 2009 10:43 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:59:38 -0700 (PDT), "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdotcom(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >And a lot less dangerous for the peace officers, too. ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ I do so love that oxymoron.
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 7 Oct 2009 11:47
On Oct 6, 2:02 pm, Pikey Joe <use...(a)pikeyjoe.me.uk> wrote: > JB wrote: > > I was a competitive practical pistol/long range pistol shooter & homeloader > > for >14yrs and enjoyed every minute of it. > > You too, eh? > > > Now I have to travel to a > > friend's range in switzerland to enjoy my sport. > > Without a friend in Switzerland, I gave up completely and took up golf. Way too dangerous allowing people to own clubs. |