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From: zymurgy on 14 Mar 2010 14:01
On 14 Mar, 17:54, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman)
wrote:
> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...(a)unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
> > Of the 'push under bike, then lift bike' variety, not a ramp. This one
> > here, or at least an older model of it:
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cml2-hydraulic-motorcy
> cle-lift/path/vehicle-lifts
>
> > Should be available around mid-April. Given what they are new, I'd like
> > to see 60 quid for it[1].
>
> > As usual, it's in Ashford, Kent.
>
> If it really lifts whole bikes safely[1] then I could be a customer.

That's a good price for a hydraulic lift (if that is what it is, I
couldn't be bothered clicking the link ;)

> [1] I mean, is there any way of ensuring the bike doesn't topple off the
> thing? What have you lifted with it? I was just wondering about fully-faired things:

They're pretty stable once the bike is on it and lined up, especailly
since the CofG is pretty low. It does have little straps for security,
but clearly they're just for PFF's with no sense of danger.

> fairings that run under the sump would have to be removed, I suppose.

Dunno, probably. You can use the arms for the frame rails, as using
the plate usually fouls the exhaust. I've had the FJ up on mine fore a
while now,

Paul.
From: The Older Gentleman on 14 Mar 2010 14:08
zymurgy <zymurgy(a)technologist.com> wrote:


>
> That's a good price for a hydraulic lift (if that is what it is, I
> couldn't be bothered clicking the link ;)

It is, yes.
>
> > [1] I mean, is there any way of ensuring the bike doesn't topple off the
> > thing? What have you lifted with it? I was just wondering about
fully-faired things:
>
> They're pretty stable once the bike is on it and lined up, especailly
> since the CofG is pretty low. It does have little straps for security,
> but clearly they're just for PFF's with no sense of danger.
>
> > fairings that run under the sump would have to be removed, I suppose.
>
> Dunno, probably. You can use the arms for the frame rails, as using
> the plate usually fouls the exhaust. I've had the FJ up on mine fore a
> while now,
>
Hm. Well, the Beemer wouldn't fit, I don't think. The Ducati would need
the fairing removed. The 400 Four's exhaust would probably foul. Street
Trip might be OK. Ditto the GN250.

<Sucks teeth>

Dunno, dunno.


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From: Mark Olson on 14 Mar 2010 14:22
The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT(a)unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Of the 'push under bike, then lift bike' variety, not a ramp. This one
>> here, or at least an older model of it:
>>
>>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cml2-hydraulic-motorcycle-lift/path/vehicle-lifts

> If it really lifts whole bikes safely[1] then I could be a customer.
>
> [1] I mean, is there any way of ensuring the bike doesn't topple off the
> thing? What have you lifted with it? I was just wondering about
> fully-faired things: fairings that run under the sump would have to be
> removed, I suppose.

I have one, and if you go to the trouble of making some sort of adapter
specific to each bike you own, they're great, but some bikes have an
undertray or lower fairing that prevent its use, and others have exhaust,
and so on, and it really isn't of much use at all on those.

I made a custom adapter for my SV650S which worked beautifully:

http://olsonm.dsl.visi.com/~olsonm/sv650/lift/html/IM000005.html

From: Harry Bloomfield on 14 Mar 2010 14:31
The Older Gentleman brought next idea :
> If it really lifts whole bikes safely[1] then I could be a customer.
>
> [1] I mean, is there any way of ensuring the bike doesn't topple off the
> thing? What have you lifted with it? I was just wondering about
> fully-faired things: fairings that run under the sump would have to be
> removed, I suppose.

They are only really of use for an unfaired bike where the frame is the
lowest point of contact and which has good clearance in the centre -
better than 5".

I bought one to lift my VFR. Even with the bottom fairing removed, I
could only just squeeze it under, then I made a sub-frame upon which to
actually lift it which needed even more clearance. So I had to start
with the wheels of the bike on planks to get that extra clearance.

It lifted it, but with a lot of faffing about. So I gave up on it, sold
it and built one to my own design. I ended up with a single post lift
with arms (two per wheel), on a frame and a small hand cranked 1 ton
cable winch on top of the post. I just slide it under wheels and crank
it up in seconds. A strap over the top keeps it firmly upright. It can
lift with post on either side of the bike, and bracket adaptor fits
under the main stand and allows me to lift it with either wheel
removed.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk


From: Salad Dodger on 14 Mar 2010 14:38
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:31:46 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
<harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>The Older Gentleman brought next idea :
>> If it really lifts whole bikes safely[1] then I could be a customer.
>>
>> [1] I mean, is there any way of ensuring the bike doesn't topple off the
>> thing? What have you lifted with it? I was just wondering about
>> fully-faired things: fairings that run under the sump would have to be
>> removed, I suppose.
>
>They are only really of use for an unfaired bike where the frame is the
>lowest point of contact and which has good clearance in the centre -
>better than 5".

Not much use for any of my three - then again, the ramp is overloaded
by 10-15kg with the wing on, and it does sway alarmingly.

It now gets ratchet strapped to two hooks in the garage walls.

The trouble is, the ramp takes up an awful lot of space, even if it is
used to store a CBX.
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